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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Owlswing on June 12, 2015, 07:27:02 AM

Title: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 12, 2015, 07:27:02 AM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.   
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 12:38:50 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 12, 2015, 01:48:28 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 04:04:38 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 12, 2015, 04:30:03 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

You obviously cannot see anything; It is not MY views that are being requested here, I know, surprise, surprise, what my views on my religion are and what my views on other religions are.

I am interested in finding out the views of others.

So answer the questions in the light of your disbelief, please.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 07:10:30 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

You obviously cannot see anything; It is not MY views that are being requested here, I know, surprise, surprise, what my views on my religion are and what my views on other religions are.

I am interested in finding out the views of others.

So answer the questions in the light of your disbelief, please.

I don't disbelieve in religion, there is no good reason to belive there is such a thing as religion to have any form of disbeief in, in the first place.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: trippymonkey on June 12, 2015, 07:19:22 PM
MMMMM ?!?!!?

This is going well. isn't it, children ?!?!? ;) :o
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 07:50:18 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 12, 2015, 07:55:03 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Lady Rhi

I have been waiting for someone senior to say that for ages!

Thank you.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 08:05:02 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

It is to billions, it you haven't noticed
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: jeremyp on June 12, 2015, 08:13:00 PM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

There must be a number of religions here about which I know nothing at all, not even that they exist.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?
Anglican Christianity.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?
All of them.  Knowing things is fab.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?
None of them.  I would never wish for ignorance.

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Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

All of them.  I think they do more harm than good.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Jeremy,

Can you pls tell me the harm caused by a) Buddhism b) Taoism and c) Paganism, and why our country would be better off without them.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: jeremyp on June 12, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Jeremy,

Can you pls tell me the harm caused by a) Buddhism b) Taoism and c) Paganism, and why our country would be better off without them.

I'll address your question but only after you address the questions in the OP.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 08:23:00 PM
Anyways...

1 Probably Jainism, although Christadelphianism was new to me a while back, so there's probably others.

2 Christianity, in the sense that I haven't engaged much with the aspects of Paganism that don't interest me - paganism being an umbrella term rather than a religion.

3. Not really 'know about' - I'd like to explore Taoism in more depth

4 none. Ignorance is unhelpful.

5 Radical Islam. Obvious as to why.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 08:23:36 PM
Jeremy,

Can you pls tell me the harm caused by a) Buddhism b) Taoism and c) Paganism, and why our country would be better off without them.

I'll address your question but only after you address the questions in the OP.

Anything for you, Jeremy.   ;)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: jeremyp on June 12, 2015, 08:35:53 PM
Jeremy,

Can you pls tell me the harm caused by a) Buddhism b) Taoism and c) Paganism, and why our country would be better off without them.

All religions encourage people to believe things that probably aren't true in the face of the evidence.  Anything that discourages thinking for yourself is ultimately bad for you.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 08:41:48 PM
Given that most Buddhists are non-theist, what stops them from being able to think for themselves? Not all Buddhist believe in reincarnation. Do you think Buddhist practices around meditation, mindfulness and suffering are unhelpful?

And what creed stops pagans being able to think for themselves? What beliefs? All type of pagan belief, or only some?
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 09:14:46 PM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Same answer as Jeremy - some of the really small minority religions are so small that there are perhaps some that I've never even heard of. Off the top of my head, the ones that I don't know too much about are Zoroastrianism and Rastafari.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Probably Christianity. Of the main religions I try to learn something about all of them, which is particularly easy to do not just through books but because of living in a place such as Leicester (which incidentally, Rhi, has the largest Jain temple outside of India. And very lovely it is too, well worth a visit) because it's such a melting-pot of religions and cultures.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

All of them. Religion is a fascinating phenomenon.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

None springs to mind. As Jeremy said deliberately wanting to know nothing about something (as opposed to being merely uninterested in it) is a worrisome phenomenon.

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Like Rhi, radical Islamism, although to that I would add any formalised, organised, institutional form of religion. Private, personal belief is one thing; but if enough private believers club together, at some point they achieve a critical mass where they think that they're entitled to start demanding extra rights and special privileges, including the most special privilege of all - telling others (of a different religion or of no religion at all) what they can and can't watch or read, who they can and can't marry and so forth, generally how to live. We can do without that sort of carry on as of yesterday.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 09:20:59 PM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Same answer as Jeremy - some of the really small minority religions are so small that there are perhaps some that I've never even heard of.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Probably Christianity. Of the main religions I try to learn something about all of them, which is particularly easy to do not just through books but because of living in a place such as Leicester (which incidentally, Rhi, has the largest Jain temple outside of India. And very lovely it is too, well worth a visit) because it's such a melting-pot of religions and cultures.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

All of them. Religion is a fascinating phenomenon.

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

None springs to mind. As Jeremy said deliberately wanting to know nothing about something (as opposed to being merely uninterested in it) is a worrisome phenomenon.

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Like Rhi, radical Islamism, although to that I would add any formalised, organised, institutional form of religion. Private, personal belief is one thing; but if enough private believers club together, at some point they achieve a critical mass where they think that they're entitled to start demanding extra rights and special privileges, including the most special privilege of all - telling others (of a different religion or of no religion at all) what they can and can't watch or read, who they can and can't marry and so forth, generally how to live. We can do without that sort of carry on as of yesterday.
   

Anybody logging on here, now, would think you were a theist  Weird!
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 09:22:23 PM
Anybody logging on here, now, would think you were a theist  Weird!
How? What would give that impression?  ???
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
Anybody logging on here, now, would think you were a theist  Weird!
How? What would give that impression?  ???

Your obsession is all too obvious, and you being a non-religionist.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 09:29:50 PM
Your obsession is all too obvious, and you being a non-religionist.
What you regard as "obsession" is what other people usually call "interest."

Being interested in a subject doesn't entail agreement with that subject, otherwise Professor Sir Ian Kershaw (to name but one of many) would be a very worrying individual.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 09:34:29 PM
Your obsession is all too obvious, and you being a non-religionist.
What you regard as "obsession" is what other people usually call "interest."

Being interested in a subject doesn't entail agreement with that subject, otherwise Professor Sir Ian Kershaw (to name but one of many) would be a very worrying individual.

"Interest" in something you don't believe, but, it seems, spend a considerable time reading about, and spend huge amounts of time rubbishing. 
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
"Interest" in something you don't believe, but, it seems, spend a considerable time reading about, and spend huge amounts of time rubbishing.
Yet again you're conflating belief in with belief that (easy to do - it's one of the failings of the English language). Religion definitely does exist; it's a massive human phenomenon and is interesting to study.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Gordon on June 12, 2015, 09:42:56 PM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

There may be some I'm unaware of, but of those I at least recognise I suppose the cult-like ones like JW's and Mormons 

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Probably Christianity, simply because it is impossible to avoid. I know some aspects of the details, as much from here as anywhere, but aside from occasional unavoidable exposure to prayers/hymns at weddings/funerals I've not ever participated in religious activity (I wasn't even christened).   

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

None specifically, but I'm happy enough to learn things whenever the opportunity arises. For example, I've learned a bit about paganism from this forum that otherwise I probably wouldn't have.   

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

None, I don't think I'd ever want to avoid new knowledge.   

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Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

The extreme elements, such as those associated with terrorism, and also the silly elements in Christianity that try to present their faith views as being knowledge, and especially those that want to peddle their nonsense to our children within the eduction system: these types seem to assume that since they have caught something nasty that the rest of us should be exposed to it by default.

So I would prefer religion to be private/family matter that has no undue default influence on society at large or special privileges. 
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 09:44:20 PM
Your obsession is all too obvious, and you being a non-religionist.
What you regard as "obsession" is what other people usually call "interest."

Being interested in a subject doesn't entail agreement with that subject, otherwise Professor Sir Ian Kershaw (to name but one of many) would be a very worrying individual.

I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
I don't realise it. It's only you regarding it as such - so what?
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
I don't realise it. It's only you regarding it as such - so what?

Obsession"

a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal.   

 "Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 10:40:40 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 10:43:00 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 10:48:09 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

It is to billions, it you haven't noticed

Millions used to think the Sun went around the Earth, so because millions or billions think something is true that alone makes it true?

Evidence of the supernatural myth and magical the something the present day believers haven't got.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 10:50:11 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 10:51:39 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.

I don't know BA and I've just classified you and a lot of others as fascinating and you're not even a little bit grateful.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 12, 2015, 10:53:14 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.

I don't know BA and I've just classified you and a lot of others as fascinating and you're not even a little bit grateful.

ippy

I was only joking...really!!     8)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Rhiannon on June 12, 2015, 11:00:55 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 11:07:07 PM
"Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
If you don't get the rather simple point by now that being interested in something doesn't amount to believing in it (I don't mean believing that it exists; I mean believing in its content) then you're never going to grasp it.

It must mean that you entertain some extremely peculiar ideas about historians such as Ian Kershaw, but there you go ...
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 11:11:10 PM
"Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
If you don't get the rather simple point by now that being interested in something doesn't amount to believing in it (I don't mean believing that it exists; I mean believing in its content) then you're never going to grasp it.

It must mean that you entertain some extremely peculiar ideas about historians such as Ian Kershaw, but there you go ...

If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 12, 2015, 11:17:47 PM
If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
Never mind the rest of his publications; go into your nearest bookshop and find the two volumes of his biography of Hitler (Hubris and Nemesis respectively) and compare that alone (remember, we're just talking about this one work, not his entire publishing history, which is enormous) and get back to me. You'll find this:

http://goo.gl/FDCejt
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 12, 2015, 11:48:15 PM
If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
Never mind the rest of his publications; go into your nearest bookshop and find the two volumes of his biography of Hitler (Hubris and Nemesis respectively) and compare that alone (remember, we're just talking about this one work, not his entire publishing history, which is enormous) and get back to me. You'll find this:

http://goo.gl/FDCejt

And what is the above?  It doesn't come up. 

I don't know why you choose Kershaw to make a point.  Does he, then, spend time daily, researching, discussing, etc?on a public forum?
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Sassy on June 13, 2015, 12:04:25 AM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

You obviously cannot see anything; It is not MY views that are being requested here, I know, surprise, surprise, what my views on my religion are and what my views on other religions are.

I am interested in finding out the views of others.

So answer the questions in the light of your disbelief, please.

I don't disbelieve in religion, there is no good reason to belive there is such a thing as religion to have any form of disbeief in, in the first place.

ippy
If you believed that to be true then why are you here telling us this?
Boy do you feel stupid now... ;D
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 13, 2015, 05:48:25 AM
My thanks to those who posted replies that are relevant to my OP.

I now have a clearer idea of what goes into your posts.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: floo on June 13, 2015, 09:14:05 AM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.   

I only know about Christianity in detail.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2015, 10:58:19 AM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy
That's a dreadful indictment of somebody actively and publicly campaigning for it's elimination.

Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2015, 11:01:25 AM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Christianity.

Secondly

Philosophical materialism.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 11:04:23 AM
Ding ding ding! 500 points!

Unfortunately you appear not to know enough about PM as a "religion" to know that it isn't one.

Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 11:36:50 AM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.   

I only know about Christianity in detail.

I think not!
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 11:38:44 AM
Hm, we noticed ;)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Hm, we noticed ;)

Well, even that would be superior to someone who pretends to know so much about most of them:  though how he finds time in between reading the world's books, studying philosophy, posting, etc, is a mystery!  Of course, his knowledge is mostly confined to a quick google, to appear knowledgeable.   ;)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 11:46:20 AM
Well, even that would be superior to someone who pretends to know so much about most of them:  though how he finds time in between reading the world's books, studying philosophy, posting, etc, is a mystery!
Only to you ...

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Of course, his knowledge is mostly confined to a quick google, to appear knowledgeable.   ;)
Prove it.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 11:49:07 AM
Well, even that would be superior to someone who pretends to know so much about most of them:  though how he finds time in between reading the world's books, studying philosophy, posting, etc, is a mystery!
Only to you ...

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Of course, his knowledge is mostly confined to a quick google, to appear knowledgeable.   ;)
Prove it.

Short of standing behind you, I can't, obviously, so it is a silly thing to ask.  The only "proof" is that some of your quotes and opinions are clearly" lifted."  You deny that, do you?
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 13, 2015, 11:49:56 AM
Ding ding ding! 500 points!

Unfortunately you appear not to know enough about PM as a "religion" to know that it isn't one.
It is the way you do it.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 11:59:35 AM

Short of standing behind you, I can't, obviously, so it is a silly thing to ask.
It was a remarkably silly thing to say.

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The only "proof" is that some of your quotes and opinions are clearly" lifted."  You deny that, do you?
If I'm sitting at the computer and have a specific quote/passage in mind that I want to cite, clearly it makes sense to Google it and copy-and-paste it rather than (1) go to my bookshelves, (2) find the appropriate book, (3) find the appropriate passage and (4) completely needlessly copy it out laboriously word for word. Speed and ease - is there a problem with that? The WWW is like the world's biggest library, available 24/7 literally at your fingertips. It's there to be used.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 12:19:00 PM


'It was a remarkably silly thing to say.'


 Well, at least you were honest enough to admit it.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 12:19:43 PM


'It was a remarkably silly thing to say.'


 Well, at least you were honest enough to admit it.
I was referring of course to your Google nonsense.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 13, 2015, 12:20:31 PM
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

You obviously cannot see anything; It is not MY views that are being requested here, I know, surprise, surprise, what my views on my religion are and what my views on other religions are.

I am interested in finding out the views of others.

So answer the questions in the light of your disbelief, please.

I don't disbelieve in religion, there is no good reason to belive there is such a thing as religion to have any form of disbeief in, in the first place.

ippy
If you believed that to be true then why are you here telling us this?
Boy do you feel stupid now... ;D



OK Sass let's have the evidence then; there isn't any? Well what a surprise.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 12:22:38 PM


'It was a remarkably silly thing to say.'


 Well, at least you were honest enough to admit it.
I was referring of course to your Google nonsense.

Too late:  you can't change it now!    :D
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 12:24:39 PM
There's nothing to change. Yet again, true to form, you made a silly, stupid, thoughtless remark. Seems to be a habit of yours.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 12:26:24 PM
There's nothing to change. Yet again, true to form, you made a silly, stupid, thoughtless remark. Seems to be a habit of yours.

Good old Shaky:  makes ambiguous/silly remark:  gets pulled up for it:  resorts to abuse.  Best form of defence, eh, old bean!   ;)
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
There was nothing ambiguous about it unless your reading comprehension isn't really up to snuff.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 12:42:15 PM
There was nothing ambiguous about it unless your reading comprehension isn't really up to snuff.

"Snuff!"  "Snuff?" What the heck does that mean?  Have you been inhaling it again?    ;D

Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 01:12:04 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/up-to-snuff.html
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 13, 2015, 01:19:23 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)

Shame, got me tripod and night vision camera set up ready, purely for research of course.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/up-to-snuff.html

Or:     Snuff
1. (verb) To kill, assasinate, destroy, murder.
2. (adj.) A real (not staged) filmed murder; usually of raping and killing a woman. In some cases it is viewed for sexual arousal.  ??
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Shaker on June 13, 2015, 01:26:49 PM
That's just snuff though and not up to snuff, which means "up to a certain standard."

http://grammarist.com/usage/up-to-snuff/

Same as up to scratch ... which you may not have heard of either.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: BashfulAnthony on June 13, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
That's just snuff though and not up to snuff, which means "up to a certain standard."

Okay, but that's enuff snuff.   ;D 
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 13, 2015, 01:45:13 PM
That's just snuff though and not up to snuff, which means "up to a certain standard."

Okay, but that's enuff snuff.   ;D

Sounds like a tissue of lies to me.

ippy

PS I will stand in the naughty corner again sorry.

Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 13, 2015, 02:02:59 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)

Shame, got me tripod and night vision camera set up ready, purely for research of course.

ippy

Bloody Typical!

Doesn't want anything to do with religion but add a few naked bodies (especially female ones) and suddenly you are interested to the nth degree!

The dancing in the woods bit is practiced only by a few branches of Paganism/witchcraft, and, because there are people like you, Ippy, arround, they keep the dates and locations of the fire/naked dancng rituals a bit quiet!

If you are really that interested you could go to Stonehenge on the night of the 20th/21st June. And you won't need the night photography stiuff they will still be dancing at sun-up.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: ippy on June 13, 2015, 02:14:43 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)

Shame, got me tripod and night vision camera set up ready, purely for research of course.

ippy

Bloody Typical!

Doesn't want anything to do with religion but add a few naked bodies (especially female ones) and suddenly you are interested to the nth degree!

The dancing in the woods bit is practiced only by a few branches of Paganism/witchcraft, and, because there are people like you, Ippy, arround, they keep the dates and locations of the fire/naked dancng rituals a bit quiet!

If you are really that interested you could go to Stonehenge on the night of the 20th/21st June. And you won't need the night photography stiuff they will still be dancing at sun-up.

I'm sure a friend of mine, not me, saw you there with your night vision camera too, I think looking at naked women; other than for research this is so disgusting and so unnatural.

Another time don't keep pushing people out of the way to get the best view, my friend asked me to tell you.

Don't tell me Religion dulls your sense of humour too.

ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Owlswing on June 13, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)

Shame, got me tripod and night vision camera set up ready, purely for research of course.

ippy

Bloody Typical!

Doesn't want anything to do with religion but add a few naked bodies (especially female ones) and suddenly you are interested to the nth degree!

The dancing in the woods bit is practiced only by a few branches of Paganism/witchcraft, and, because there are people like you, Ippy, arround, they keep the dates and locations of the fire/naked dancng rituals a bit quiet!

If you are really that interested you could go to Stonehenge on the night of the 20th/21st June. And you won't need the night photography stiuff they will still be dancing at sun-up.

I'm sure a friend of mine, not me, saw you there with your night vision camera too, I think looking at naked women; other than for research this is so disgusting and so unnatural.

Another time don't keep pushing people out of the way to get the best view, my friend asked me to tell you.

Don't tell me Religion dulls your sense of humour too.

ippy

Actually I avoid Stonehange at Solstice like the plague.

It is a Druidic celebration, I am not a Druid, and it has been hijacked by the hippy, New-Age, drugs and booze brigade and the stones are getting rapidly more and more damaged due to frequent applications of uric acid!

And there is nothing wrong with my sense of humour, but being among such humourless individuals as some on this forum has taught me to curb it as the humourless take offence at my humour and immediately report my posts to the Moderators!
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 13, 2015, 04:38:07 PM
Does anybody have a tissue for poor Matty to cry into? He's creating a river here.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Sassy on July 13, 2015, 02:16:31 AM





OK Sass let's have the evidence then; there isn't any? Well what a surprise.

ippy

Let's not show your ignorance.
The bible,the words of Christ tell you how to find your evidence.

Do you know what the evidence tells us about you?

You will never come to know the truth till you see it for the right reason with a right heart.
Had you really been interested in the reality of God and Christ you would have read the bible and sought out the answer.

The true evidence about you, shows you do not want to know if it true... That is why you have never found the evidence... It is there... but you are not interested in finding the way because you don't want to know the truth.
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Hope on July 13, 2015, 08:30:37 AM
I can see that you think religion is important; in my opinion, it isn't.

ippy
FIFY, ippy
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Hope on July 13, 2015, 08:33:58 AM
All religions encourage people to believe things that probably aren't true in the face of the evidence.  Anything that discourages thinking for yourself is ultimately bad for you.
And what evidence is there that "All religions encourage people to believe things that probably aren't true in the face of the evidence". 
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: floo on July 13, 2015, 08:38:46 AM
All religions encourage people to believe things that probably aren't true in the face of the evidence.  Anything that discourages thinking for yourself is ultimately bad for you.
And what evidence is there that "All religions encourage people to believe things that probably aren't true in the face of the evidence".

Well Christianity is a case in point there is no evidence to support any of its fantastical claims!
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Ricky Spanish on July 13, 2015, 11:49:01 AM
I believe in U.F.O's - but that doesn't mean I believe in little green men.....
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Sassy on July 13, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
I believe in U.F.O's - but that doesn't mean I believe in little green men.....

Ha! Ha!  ;D

Who do you think flies the U.F.O'S or is the Jury still out to your way of thinking regarding what they actually are?
Title: Re: Information requested
Post by: Ricky Spanish on July 13, 2015, 12:02:40 PM
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Jainism.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Christianity.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Jainism.

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

None. Knowledge is power

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Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish was not so, and why?

Televangelism - it just irritates me that so many people can be so easily conned.

Radicalized Islam - a danger to themselves and others.



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Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.
   

What about the nonbelievers?