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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: Humph Warden Bennett on June 12, 2015, 07:40:24 AM
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I watched some of the Womens World Cup on the television with my daughter the other night, my daughter was surprised to see a game where all the players, officials, and commentators are girls! I cannot get too interested in the tournament myself, not because the standard of play is not the same as the mens game-I have watched my local team play in the Conference South, and that is not world class standard either-but because so few of the games are competitive. Watching an obviously inferior team being thrashed by five goals in twenty minutes I find boring.
Anybody have any thoughts?
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Calm down ;)
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Are smiley faces meant to say 'I am being a huge dickhead so just ignore me'? Because that is how I read that last one. Kudos for getting that much info into it.
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Are smiley faces meant to say 'I am being a huge dickhead so just ignore me'? Because that is how I read that last one. Kudos for getting that much info into it.
Er do you have any interest in the Womens World Cup or are you one of those sorts who demand that womens sport be shown on television even though you have no intention of watching it?
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I can't watch it. It's like watching women's hockey (the one played on ice, that is, proper hockey). It's slow, not physical enough and it's...well...boring.
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I am the sort who says referring to women as girls is patronising and condescending. Is this really Witless Fuckery day for blokes and I've missed the invite?
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I am the sort who says referring to women as girls is patronising and condescending. Is this really Witless Fuckery day for blokes and I've missed the invite?
Not any more patronising than women who refer to men as boys. Personally I don't have a problem with it and therefore I don't quite understand why a woman would either.
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I am the sort who says referring to women as girls is patronising and condescending. Is this really Witless Fuckery day for blokes and I've missed the invite?
Not any more patronising than women who refer to men as boys. Personally I don't have a problem with it and therefore I don't quite understand why a woman would either.
That would be because it is Witless Fuckery Day
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Get out of bed the wrong side?
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Get out of bed the wrong side?
If the wrong side of the bed has meant i've ended up in bizarro world of male boaby preeners, then, yes.
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Boaby preeners? What language is that?
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Boaby preeners? What language is that?
Preen is a relatively common word in English.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boaby
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Well, I've never heard of it. Must be northern or something.
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Take no notice of NS: he knows nothing about any kind of football; he just wants an argument, and the opportunity to use some of his collection of expletives.
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Anybody want to talk about the Women's World Cup on this thread entitled "FIFA Womens World Cup"?
I admit I haven't been watching the games, but then the only games I watched in the FIFA men's World Cup were England's woeful performance against Uruguay and Brazil's hysterical performance against Germany.
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Anybody want to talk about the Women's World Cup on this thread entitled "FIFA Womens World Cup"?
I admit I haven't been watching the games, but then the only games I watched in the FIFA men's World Cup were England's woeful performance against Uruguay and Brazil's hysterical performance against Germany.
I like watching women's football, and the standard certainly has risen hugely in the last few years. I do miss the sheer physicality of men's football though
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Anybody want to talk about the Women's World Cup on this thread entitled "FIFA Womens World Cup"?
I admit I haven't been watching the games, but then the only games I watched in the FIFA men's World Cup were England's woeful performance against Uruguay and Brazil's hysterical performance against Germany.
Yes, don't want to derail but Brazil v Germany was a classic, although not in the usual sense.
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Just to note that of the 16 matches played so far only 3 have been won by more than 2 clear goals.
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Figures are now 28 matches, 5 of which were more than 2 clear goals
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I have watched a couple of matches, and the skill level is good (apart from goal keeping!). Almost any shot can be a goal!
I think the reason it will not the huge following of regular football, is that most people that watch are men, and they like to see a level of skill and speed they could not attain.
I suspect there a lot of young men that watch the women play, and just think they could beat them.
So for them is it interesting, but not inspiring.
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I can't watch it. It's like watching women's hockey (the one played on ice, that is, proper hockey). It's slow, not physical enough and it's...well...boring.
I watched the Cameroon v Brazil match at the Millennium Stadium here in Cardiff for the Women's Tournie at the London Olympics - and it was definitely not slow, almost as skilful as any men's game I've watched - and actually more interesting because there was less physical battering of each other.
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England Women make history - their first victory in a Wold Cup knock-out match!! Well done to their Welsh coach. Any man would have been proud to have scored a goal like that which won the match.
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Listening to the after-match interviews last night, all the England players, and officials, apart from the manager (!) referred to each other as "girls." If it's okay with them, what's it to you? Incidentally, the same is true of the England hockey team I was watching a couple of days back. Footballers mostly refer to each other as "boys," or " the lads," rarely men.
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Listening to the after-match interviews last night, all the England players, and officials, apart from the manager (!) referred to each other as "girls." If it's okay with them, what's it to you? Incidentally, the same is true of the England hockey team I was watching a couple of days back. Footballers mostly refer to each other as "boys," or " the lads," rarely men.
Because it is precisely ok for them to do and not me. If I refer to one sex as men and the other as girls, which was the point you missed, then I am choosing to infantilise by that differing approach. I am not a member of the team therefore I am not acting out of equal camaraderie.
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Listening to the after-match interviews last night, all the England players, and officials, apart from the manager (!) referred to each other as "girls." If it's okay with them, what's it to you? Incidentally, the same is true of the England hockey team I was watching a couple of days back. Footballers mostly refer to each other as "boys," or " the lads," rarely men.
Because it is precisely ok for them to do and not me. If I refer to one sex as men and the other as girls, which was the point you missed, then I am choosing o infanticide by that differing approach. I am not a member of the team therefore I am not acting out of equal camaraderie.
Talk about making something out of nothing!
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Listening to the after-match interviews last night, all the England players, and officials, apart from the manager (!) referred to each other as "girls." If it's okay with them, what's it to you? Incidentally, the same is true of the England hockey team I was watching a couple of days back. Footballers mostly refer to each other as "boys," or " the lads," rarely men.
Because it is precisely ok for them to do and not me. If I refer to one sex as men and the other as girls, which was the point you missed, then I am choosing o infanticide by that differing approach. I am not a member of the team therefore I am not acting out of equal camaraderie.
Talk about making something out of nothing!
Do you think the team would approve if they had on the BBC website thus as the FIFA Girls World Cup while referring to the other one as the Men's ?
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I've been watching some parts of some games, and I find it hard to get really enthusiastic. They just lack that sharpness and competitive aspect which sparks a game.
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Yep, that using the word girls where you then use the word men is infantilising. Grow up!
Listening to the after-match interviews last night, all the England players, and officials, apart from the manager (!) referred to each other as "girls." If it's okay with them, what's it to you? Incidentally, the same is true of the England hockey team I was watching a couple of days back. Footballers mostly refer to each other as "boys," or " the lads," rarely men.
Because it is precisely ok for them to do and not me. If I refer to one sex as men and the other as girls, which was the point you missed, then I am choosing o infanticide by that differing approach. I am not a member of the team therefore I am not acting out of equal camaraderie.
Talk about making something out of nothing!
Do you think the team would approve if they had on the BBC website thus as the FIFA Girls World Cup while referring to the other one as the Men's ?
I doubt it would bother them. and if it did, I would wonder why they didn't just get on with the game. I n all my years of watching football, and listening to after-match interviews with players and managers, etc, I have never heard one of them refer to the players as the "men;" it's always "the boys," or "the lads;" and so far, I have not heard anyone refer to the women as "the women," always "the girls."
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Congratulations to England's offspring bearing gender team on reaching the semi finals.
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Congratulations to England's offspring bearing gender team on reaching the semi finals.
Seconded.
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I've been watching some parts of some games, and I find it hard to get really enthusiastic. They just lack that sharpness and competitive aspect which sparks a game.
Can't say tht for some of the England matches - especially last night's. I've seen hundreds of men's matches that have no spark or competitiveness - and at the highest levels, as well as lower down the scale.
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I've been watching some parts of some games, and I find it hard to get really enthusiastic. They just lack that sharpness and competitive aspect which sparks a game.
Can't say tht for some of the England matches - especially last night's. I've seen hundreds of men's matches that have no spark or competitiveness - and at the highest levels, as well as lower down the scale.
Last night was better, but you have to sustain the level of competition: one swallow doesn't make a summer. I have seen many dull men's matches, but loads of scorchers, too.
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Very well done to the team, watched match on playback, next match huge
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33365095
Well worth watching, but also amusing!
Let it be a timely lesson to all us sports fans and players
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When the teams come out in men's football, as we know, they all bring youngsters out with them; mostly boys, but a fair number of girls. I notice in the women's matches, all the youngsters are girls! Sexist, or what?
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I'm not much of a football fan - well, not senior footbaall, anyway*.
But the England team was superb, and they deserved to be third in the world. I'm pretty sure they would have ended up second but for the own goal.
I think the best team won in the end, though.
* = I do follow Junior football up here - that's a kind of intermediate between amateur and fully professional status.
My local team recently won the Scottish Junior Cup for an eye watering eleventh time.
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Nearly,
You must be a riot at parties!
Girls, girls, girls, girls and then more girls. There, whatcha think of that?