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Title: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 12:21:14 PM
For the Health committee, very glad to see Sarah Wollaston win Chair rather than David Tredinnick

http://tinyurl.com/oooz6cz
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mp-who-believes-astrology-homeopathy-5852936
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Shaker on June 18, 2015, 12:22:41 PM
That's about the only situation I can envisage in which the phrase "A cheering Tory win" would actually be true.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
Apparently of the contested committee chairs, it was the clearest victory at 532 - 64. I would like to know who the other 63 were.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on June 18, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
Tories are Tories. I would not cheer any of them.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 01:50:57 PM
The details on the astrology software expense claim

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicestershire-MP-repays-163-755-claimed-expenses-astrology-software/story-12053468-detail/story.html
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: SusanDoris on June 18, 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Apparently of the contested committee chairs, it was the clearest victory at 532 - 64. I would like to know who the other 63 were.
Me too!!
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
Apparently of the contested committee chairs, it was the clearest victory at 532 - 64. I would like to know who the other 63 were.
Me too!!

Apparently these are secret ballots
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on June 18, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Isn't this a hoot. A bunch of atheists that are happy having an mp who wants astrology (horror scopes and psycho readings) in their health care, in a position of leadership in this critical area. Bet these godless ones would sneer if the mp selected was not a crystal ball hoarding, star and planet reader but a God fearing, bible believing, evangelical. YUP!
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 04:10:23 PM
Isn't this a hoot. A bunch of atheists that are happy having an mp who wants astrology (horror scopes and psycho readings) in their health care, in a position of leadership in this critical area. Bet these godless ones would sneer if the mp selected was not a crystal ball hoarding, star and planet reader but a God fearing, bible believing, evangelical. YUP!

Eh? What bunch of atheists? The point is that of those posting on here it is being precisely opposed to what you represented in your first sentence. Do you want to try again, this time actually representing what has been said rather than hopelessly stating the opposite?
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Shaker on June 18, 2015, 04:23:33 PM
Wot NS sed, innit - I think you need to read the article again and this more carefully, boaty, because what you've written bears no resemblance to what actually happened.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Hope on June 18, 2015, 04:37:52 PM
Tories are Tories. I would not cheer any of them.
The 64 against might all have been Labour or SNP!! ;)
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 05:03:20 PM
Tories are Tories. I would not cheer any of them.
The 64 against might all have been Labour or SNP!! ;)
why would that make Humph more liable to cheer a Tory?
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Rhiannon on June 18, 2015, 06:07:20 PM
She sounds like a reasonable egg to me. Hadn't come across her before.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Hope on June 18, 2015, 06:30:46 PM
Tories are Tories. I would not cheer any of them.
The 64 against might all have been Labour or SNP!! ;)
why would that make Humph more liable to cheer a Tory?
If all the 64 who voted against Sarah Wollaston had been Labour or SNP (and therefore potentially in favour of the astrology-loving Tredennick), the fact that Tories voted for the sensible candidate would be a plus for them.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 06:35:14 PM
Tories are Tories. I would not cheer any of them.
The 64 against might all have been Labour or SNP!! ;)
why would that make Humph more liable to cheer a Tory?
If all the 64 who voted against Sarah Wollaston had been Labour or SNP (and therefore potentially in favour of the astrology-loving Tredennick), the fact that Tories voted for the sensible candidate would be a plus for them.

Except that he doesn't like Tories and the nutjob candidate was a Tory.  Surely if he dies not like Tories, he is even less likely to like someone that all Tories vote for?
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Hope on June 18, 2015, 06:40:10 PM
Except that he doesn't like Tories and the nutjob candidate was a Tory.  Surely if he dies not like Tories, he is even less likely to like someone that all Tories vote for?
I don't particularly like Manchester City, but as a Spurs supporter, I'm quite happy to congratulate them when they beat Arsenal.  More seriously, don't we congratulate folk when they choose someone other than the lunatic that our assumptions suggest they will choose?
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 18, 2015, 06:46:04 PM
Except that he doesn't like Tories and the nutjob candidate was a Tory.  Surely if he dies not like Tories, he is even less likely to like someone that all Tories vote for?
I don't particularly like Manchester City, but as a Spurs supporter, I'm quite happy to congratulate them when they beat Arsenal.  More seriously, don't we congratulate folk when they choose someone other than the lunatic that our assumptions suggest they will choose?

That seems to suggest that Humph' s position was treat he hates the SNP and Labour more than the Tories, do we have any evidence for this?

As for the second, given the entire point of the post was that they chose the good candidate, Humph's post already discounted that.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on June 20, 2015, 04:47:37 PM
FTR as a general rule I dislike the Tories more than I do Labour (the SNP don't stand in south east England), although I would vote for a more sensible Tory than for some Labour politicians, i.e Bob "Three Jobs" Neill rather than "Nasty Nick" Raynsford.
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Steve H on January 19, 2020, 01:24:34 PM
There is no such thing as a cheering Tory win. Discuss.
(Thought I'd bump up the oldest thread, just for the hell of it.)
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Gordon on January 19, 2020, 07:13:30 PM
There is no such thing as a cheering Tory win. Discuss.
(Thought I'd bump up the oldest thread, just for the hell of it.)

True: lying PM and Brexit.

End of discussion?
Title: Re: A cheering Tory win
Post by: Outrider on January 20, 2020, 09:04:33 AM
Isn't this a hoot. A bunch of atheists that are happy having an mp who wants astrology (horror scopes and psycho readings) in their health care, in a position of leadership in this critical area. Bet these godless ones would sneer if the mp selected was not a crystal ball hoarding, star and planet reader but a God fearing, bible believing, evangelical. YUP!

Assuming that you'd read the article correctly, and this represented what had happened, it would rather depend on to what extent we thought they'd push their woo onto electorate.  Evangelicals are, at the risk of being redundant, typically quite evangelical about their faith, whilst there are astrology believers who are quite content to hold their beliefs in the private sphere.

O.