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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Owlswing on July 11, 2015, 12:24:55 AM
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There have been many campaigns by Christian groups againt many thimngs that they consider to be "against the wishes" or "against the rules/bible" of their God.
This one I find to be the most unpleasant so far.
https://www.facebook.com/791861664242320/photos/a.792401497521670.1073741827.791861664242320/797365047025315/?type=1&theater
Comments please, what do others think. - My thought is "what a load of complete and utter rubbish!"
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Unless there are scientific studies to back up such claims, they have no weight.
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Unless there are scientific studies to back up such claims, they have no weight.
LJ
I do understand that, but my problem is that such claims are, all too frequently, when published by an organisation that includes the word "Christian", by far too many of that ilk, accepted without question on the basis that the organisation, being Christian, must know what it is talking about for that and no other reason.
Further, the more fundamentalist the believer, in a lot of cases, the more moronic the reaction and, possibly, violent the reaction.
Are we now to have pickets outside tattoo parlours, and Social Services called to investigate tattoo'd parents?
I truly hope not, but, to quote another poster on this forum, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get it's pants on." Winston Churchill
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Anything extremist bigoted Christians have to say is not worth listening too. I dislike tattoos though.
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Anything extremist bigoted Christians have to say is not worth listening too. I dislike tattoos though.
As is your right. I am not a fan of women with vast swathes of them, the odd one or two 'feminine' ones, OK, but then this is the view of a rather old-fashioned male.
I have two, and am planning to get, eventually a third to cover over the first.
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Anything extremist bigoted Christians have to say is not worth listening too. I dislike tattoos though.
As is your right. I am not a fan of women with vast swathes of them, the odd one or two 'feminine' ones, OK, but then this is the view of a rather old-fashioned male.
I have two, and am planning to get, eventually a third to cover over the first.
So many young people seem to be getting themselves covered in tattoos these days, even on their faces. I suspect they may live to regret doing so when they get older.
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Overwhelmingly it tends to be people with a few tattoos - just the odd one or two - who end up regretting them because they tend to be poorly-thought-out and impulsive. If you see somebody with a lot of tattoos you're looking at somebody serious about it and committed to it, since that amount of work represents a very great investment of thought, planning, consultation, time (years, in fact) and money (since good tattoos aren't cheap and cheap tattoos aren't good, as they say).
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If tattoos gradually faded away over a few years I could understand their popularity.
ippy
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Up to a point they do! Especially if exposed to sunlight a great deal.
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If tattoos gradually faded away over a few years I could understand their popularity.
ippy
I agree I see them as a form of self abuse and not one that you can wipe away with a Kleenex.
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Thus spake the expert self-abuser and Kleenex wiper ...
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If tattoo ink were addictive, we'd know about it. It's legal and there are enough people with tattoos to do proper studies.
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Thus spake the expert self-abuser and Kleenex wiper ...
<coffee spurt>
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Thus spake the expert self-abuser and Kleenex wiper ...
Is it true you Have RICHARD D tattooed on one butt cheek
and RKINS tattooed on the other....so everytime you bend over it says RICHARD DORKINS?
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No, because I can spell.
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No, because I can spell.
So are you saying you tattooed your own butt?
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Thus spake the expert self-abuser and Kleenex wiper ...
Is it true you Have RICHARD D tattooed on one butt cheek
and RKINS tattooed on the other....so everytime you bend over it says RICHARD DORKINS?
It's so refreshing to think how much R D manages to annoy you Woo and long may he continue to do so.
ippy
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Here's a news flash for you dear Matty, there's a lot of crap you witches do and think that is utter rubbish. And I mean a lot. Don't care to check your little link but I take it that this is a gripe you have against Christians that are against tattoos? Well my dad was a preacher and he was against tattoos.
"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh FOR THE DEAD, nor PRINT ANY MARKS UPON YOU; I am the LORD."
Bible seems pretty clear about that dearest Matty. So get over it and have a cookie! Tattoo yourself all you want, we could not care less what you are covering and how.
What happened to the guy that posted about letting people believe what ever they want? His live and let live post? Oh ya, it was a joke. You can be against tattoos but dont you dare voice that opinion. Too funny you.
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Here's a news flash for you dear Matty, there's a lot of crap you witches do and think that is utter rubbish.
People in glass houses ...
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Tattoos are like cats. You can easily stop at one or two - any number above that and you've lost it. They'll just keep appearing as if by magic.
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Tattoos are like cats. You can easily stop at one or two
You can - but in twenty-plus years of experience I've found that this tends to be the sort of person who ends up on Channel 5 documentaries (Tattoo Disasters; Tattoo Fixers or whatever they are) complaining because they got pissed in Magaluf or Bodrum and ended up, smashed out of their tiny brains, in some scratcher's back-street dive. I've been around tattoos, tattooists and tattoo studios for half my life - trust me, we've seen it more times than you can count ::)
And there is simply no way on earth that any true ailurophile can stop at two cats :D
- any number above that and you've lost it. They'll just keep appearing as if by magic.
Oh, I lost it a long while ago, then. Except that they didn't appear by magic but by a lot of time, thought, consultation, artwork, pain-which-isn't-really pain (if you've been under the needle, you'll know) and money :)
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I've not got a tattoo - I have always thought I would get one - but never got around to it.
At 58 it seems a bit late now, somehow. I have no problem with them at all - so long as they are done well and aren't the blue veiny ones which used to predominate the tattoo world years ago. You know the sort - self tattoos - LOVE HATE!
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I've not got a tattoo - I have always thought I would get one - but never got around to it.
At 58 it seems a bit late now, somehow.
Balls, bullshit, poppycock, wibble, twaddle, stuff and nonsense. Decide (over a long period of time) what you really want, find yourself a really good tattoo artist (shop around - the words artist and studio are not misapplied; artists work in studios), consult, engage, converse, chat, arrange and get the bloody thing done. It will hurt, and depending upon what you have where you have it you will enjoy it. (N.B. Only my experience and that of millions). If you have a good tattooist they will give you good aftercare as a matter of course, but nevertheless go into the chemist and buy a tube of Bepanthen (horribly greasy nappy rash cream) ... which is what you'll need to see you through the first two to three weeks or so.
It takes about that long for you to start thinking about what you'll have next :D
I have no problem with them at all - so long as they are done well and aren't the blue veiny ones which used to predominate the tattoo world years ago. You know the sort - self tattoos - LOVE HATE!
Old tattoos done long ago with old-fashioned inks, usually exposed to a lot of sunlight. Modern vegetable-based tattoo inks don't fade like that, but even if they did (they don't), if I may say, it's not really a consideration for either you or me ;)
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I've not got a tattoo - I have always thought I would get one - but never got around to it.
At 58 it seems a bit late now, somehow.
Balls, bullshit, poppycock, wibble, twaddle, stuff and nonsense. Decide (over a long period of time) what you really want, find yourself a really good tattoo artist (shop around - the words artist and studio are not misapplied; artists work in studios), consult, engage, converse, chat, arrange and get the bloody thing done. It will hurt, and depending upon what you have where you have it you will enjoy it. (N.B. Only my experience and that of millions). If you have a good tattooist they will give you good aftercare as a matter of course, but nevertheless go into the chemist and buy a tube of Bepanthen (horribly greasy nappy rash cream) ... which is what you'll need to see you through the first two to three weeks or so.
It takes about that long for you to start thinking about what you'll have next :D
I have no problem with them at all - so long as they are done well and aren't the blue veiny ones which used to predominate the tattoo world years ago. You know the sort - self tattoos - LOVE HATE!
Old tattoos done long ago with old-fashioned inks, usually exposed to a lot of sunlight. Modern vegetable-based tattoo inks don't fade like that, but even if they did (they don't), if I may say, it's not really a consideration for either you or me ;)
You seem to be an expert on the subject of tattoos so given the context of yourself and tattoos perhaps you can answer this question.............Is a labial tattoo a ''twattoo''?
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Only on both labia, in which case it's a twattwo.
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I've not got a tattoo - I have always thought I would get one - but never got around to it.
At 58 it seems a bit late now, somehow. I have no problem with them at all - so long as they are done well and aren't the blue veiny ones which used to predominate the tattoo world years ago. You know the sort - self tattoos - LOVE HATE!
58 is no problem - I got my second as a 59th birthday present from my daughter.
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I'm afraid if I did have a tattoo it would indeed be 'a', but I know exactly what I want and where it would go - it would be about a couple of inches across. But as I have very sensitive skin (I'm allergic to formaldehyde and the bloody stuff's everywhere, but other stuff irritates too) I suppose it would be a bad idea. <sigh>
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It would be interesting to know what proportion of those on or below the 'bread line' get tattoos as opposed to those above it? Whilst I'm not against tattoos, our elder daughter has two very distinctive ones which are in no way obtrusive or easily visible, I am aware that they cost money and time which some people may not actually have other than by scrimping on money for food or other necessities.
I remember speaking to a lady who came into our homelessness charity some years ago who was very heavily tattooed just about everywhere (at least visible) - legs, arms, forehead, hands, feet, ... . In the discussion, the issue of non-essential expenditure came up and she brought up the fact that she had spent in the region of £5K on her tattoos over the previous 5 or 6 years. Even she admitted that, as a result, she had spent money on them that shouldn have been spent on her children.
I think this report, like so many reports, has truths buried within it, but which are perhaps not dealt with in the way they should be.
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But Hope, people on low incomes squander money on all kinds of stuff they shouldn't. Clothes, shoes, gadgets etc... In some communities these things act as status symbols and as a result they become a kind of armour in a world that doesn't always feel very safe.
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Only on both labia, in which case it's a twattwo.
You Da Man! 8)
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I'm afraid if I did have a tattoo it would indeed be 'a', but I know exactly what I want and where it would go - it would be about a couple of inches across. But as I have very sensitive skin (I'm allergic to formaldehyde and the bloody stuff's everywhere, but other stuff irritates too) I suppose it would be a bad idea. <sigh>
All is not lost. If you get a really good, reputable artist it's worth asking about the content of the inks and other products in connection with skin sensitivity. For example, most tattoo inks are vegetable based, but there can be other products which contain animal-based ingredients, so serious vegans shop around for those studios that use wholly vegan things.
Another, very much more common issue is latex allergy (which affects quite a few people); if you're considering going under the needle you have to make sure that the tattoo artist wears a suitable alternative. So there's a way round everything :)
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Thanks for that, Shaker. I'd have to get the advice of my dermatologist too - I believe there is an artist with a good reputation not far away.
This is an approximation of what I want, on the nape of my neck.
http://www.goddessgift.net/images/pendant-star-goddess-TG-JSTAR-CU.jpg
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Niiiice! :D
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If you look at the header page on Facebook It says " just for fun" so I don't think it is meant to be taken seriously.
It leads to here.
http://www.godhatestattoos.com
If you go to the website, the clue that it may well be a wind up is that there are no contact details - just 'readers' responses.
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There have been many campaigns by Christian groups againt many thimngs that they consider to be "against the wishes" or "against the rules/bible" of their God.
This one I find to be the most unpleasant so far.
https://www.facebook.com/791861664242320/photos/a.792401497521670.1073741827.791861664242320/797365047025315/?type=1&theater
Comments please, what do others think. - My thought is "what a load of complete and utter rubbish!"
Some people wear Christian themed tattoos.
Personally I think tattoos look HORRIBLE
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Look up Nadia Bolz-Weber.
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Thanks for that, Shaker. I'd have to get the advice of my dermatologist too - I believe there is an artist with a good reputation not far away.
This is an approximation of what I want, on the nape of my neck.
http://www.goddessgift.net/images/pendant-star-goddess-TG-JSTAR-CU.jpg
Very nice! Identifies your religion to others within it.
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If you look at the header page on Facebook It says " just for fun" so I don't think it is meant to be taken seriously.
It leads to here.
http://www.godhatestattoos.com
If you go to the website, the clue that it may well be a wind up is that there are no contact details - just 'readers' responses.
And what does that prove - how many of the fundamentalist (read Leviticus) brigade are going to care about that!
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Depending on the tattoo, I quite like some of them.
I don't have any, btw.
You can always get the ones you stick on, temporary ones or learn to draw a pattern with henna, as an alternative I suppose.
I think most tattoos, especially when done in numbers, look unattractive.
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And what does that prove - how many of the fundamentalist (read Leviticus) brigade are going to care about that!
Are you sure that you want to take that line, when you remember who started the thread? ;)
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And what does that prove - how many of the fundamentalist (read Leviticus) brigade are going to care about that!
Are you sure that you want to take that line, when you remember who started the thread? ;)
Of course I do!
Do you really think that your basic "the bible is everything" idiot is going to bother finding out if the site is a wind up? Of course they are not! They will jiust pick it up and run with it!
Even someone as blinkered as you to the excesses of some of your fellow Christians must see that.
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Do you really think that you basic "the bible is everything" idiot is going to bother finding out if the sire is a wind up? Of course they are not! They will jiust pick it up and run with it!
In just the same way as you did?
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Do you really think that you basic "the bible is everything" idiot is going to bother finding out if the sire is a wind up? Of course they are not! They will jiust pick it up and run with it!
In just the same way as you did?
I didn't see it as a wind-up but, as soon as it was pointed oiut to me I did see the danger from the 'basic "the bible is everything" idiot' - you clearly did not.
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Matty,
You are so full of BS. You point your claw at fundies, accusing them of what YOU DID. You picked it up and ran with it!! There's no fool like an old fool. Ha, ha, ha, yup. Our little witch took the bait and without putting on his little thinking cap, without paying attention to what was written, started yet another DUH thread.
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There have been many campaigns by Christian groups againt many thimngs that they consider to be "against the wishes" or "against the rules/bible" of their God.
This one I find to be the most unpleasant so far.
https://www.facebook.com/791861664242320/photos/a.792401497521670.1073741827.791861664242320/797365047025315/?type=1&theater
Comments please, what do others think. - My thought is "what a load of complete and utter rubbish!"
Gives a new meaning to being on the piste....
Like one tattoo and it is all down hill...
Some mothers do have em...
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To all those pointing out that the site is a wind up I point to the last line of the OP
Quote - Comments please, what do others think. - My thought is "what a load of complete and utter rubbish!" - Unquote
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Look up Nadia Bolz-Weber.
I have done. Yep she is different :)
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Don't bother trying to wipe your butt now Matty. You started the post attacking Christian campaigns, telling us this is the worst one. Utter rubbish is your opinion of that campaign that you fell for like a fundie.