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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Pagan Topic => Topic started by: Owlswing on July 31, 2015, 02:38:01 PM

Title: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Owlswing on July 31, 2015, 02:38:01 PM
Horsethorn and Rhiannon

Tomorrow is a rarity - Lammas and a Blue Moon - may I wish both of you Lammas blessings.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Ricky Spanish on July 31, 2015, 02:47:59 PM
Will that bring extra pixies out?
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Rhiannon on July 31, 2015, 07:54:54 PM
Brightest blessings, Matt.

Lammas has been going for a while here - the first cereal was cut a week or so back.  :)
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on July 31, 2015, 08:58:19 PM
Interesting that one into witchery uses the CHRISTIAN name of this special time for him. You will be expected to bring a loaf to mass then Matty.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Rhiannon on July 31, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
Your Christian forebears weren't adverse to some Lammas witchery.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lammas

It corresponds to the Celtic pagan festival of Lughnasadh. Whether Lammas evolved out of the earlier festival, who knows, but it seems Lammas is one of those festivals where folk religion blurred the lines between the old pagan ways and Christian ideas. No doubt the church found it expedient to do so.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on July 31, 2015, 09:41:18 PM
Rhi,
You don't know what you are talking about. Christianity is about 150 yrs old among the plains Cree. No, we had that real paganism thingy going on. We lived in a constant state of fear and hate and superstition and warfare until the message of Jesus came and the Mounties forced us to end our killing the Blackfoot, the Bloods, the Peigans, the Crow, and those nasty Sioux.
The only Christian heritage I can claim is from the church my father brought me to when he and mom took me in.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Rhiannon on July 31, 2015, 09:49:03 PM
Aren't all Christians your brothers and sisters, and those who went before part of your Christian family then?
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Owlswing on July 31, 2015, 10:03:29 PM
Your Christian forebears weren't adverse to some Lammas witchery.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lammas

It corresponds to the Celtic pagan festival of Lughnasadh. Whether Lammas evolved out of the earlier festival, who knows, but it seems Lammas is one of those festivals where folk religion blurred the lines between the old pagan ways and Christian ideas. No doubt the church found it expedient to do so.

Don't take any notice of the Canadian planker who uses lik=nks that don't mean anything so he assumes that any we quote are the same!
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Ricky Spanish on July 31, 2015, 10:15:03 PM
Enjoy cavorting with the fairies and elves.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: cyberman on August 08, 2015, 06:10:56 PM
hmmmm

Not sure about this thread.

I mean, ok, yes "Lammas" has a Christian etymology. And Christmas trees have a pagan origin (it seems). So what? And Thrud with your fairy joke posted twice because it didn't get a laugh the first time.

I mean.. really?

Can't someone of a certain faith tradition say "Happy Lammas" or "Happy anything" to his fellow travellers without jibing and pisstaking getting thrown in?

Don't get me wrong, there's a place for jibing and pisstaking - we all do it, Matt no less than anyone else - but I'm just not sure this was the right place. Seems a bit ungracious. Not sure, but it just feels wrong to me.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Rhiannon on August 08, 2015, 06:54:38 PM
Thanks, Cybs.  :)
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Anchorman on August 08, 2015, 08:28:37 PM
Wot cyberman said.
Title: Re: Lammas - August 1, 2015
Post by: Owlswing on August 08, 2015, 10:04:42 PM
Thank you, Cyberman, your comments are appreciated all the more coming from someone who admits to not kniowing much about my beliefs.