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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Philosophy, in all its guises. => Topic started by: Owlswing on September 16, 2015, 05:49:25 PM

Title: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 16, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
A brilliant comment on unquestioning acceptance of the bible and its teachings!

https://www.facebook.com/Antitheists/photos/a.108977109172510.11644.107846889285532/918426551560891/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Shaker on September 16, 2015, 05:50:38 PM
Nice  :)
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 16, 2015, 06:16:47 PM
Nice  :)

Exactly what I thought!
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Andy on September 16, 2015, 06:20:05 PM
http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=10853.msg553591#msg553591
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 16, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=10853.msg553591#msg553591

LOL!
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Hope on September 16, 2015, 09:37:23 PM
A brilliant comment on unquestioning acceptance of the bible and its teachings!

https://www.facebook.com/Antitheists/photos/a.108977109172510.11644.107846889285532/918426551560891/?type=1&theater
Couldn't agree more, Matt.  After all, Jesus tells us not to assume too much at the end of Matt 25.  Despite this, the likes of Floo, Shaker, Len, Gordon, etc. seem very keen to make the very mistake you have picked up on.  They may claim not to believe it, but they seem to accept it and its teachings word for word, and base their arguments on that understanding!!
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Shaker on September 16, 2015, 09:39:44 PM
A brilliant comment on unquestioning acceptance of the bible and its teachings!

https://www.facebook.com/Antitheists/photos/a.108977109172510.11644.107846889285532/918426551560891/?type=1&theater
Couldn't agree more, Matt.  After all, Jesus tells us not to assume too much at the end of Matt 25.  Despite this, the likes of Floo, Shaker, Len, Gordon, etc. seem very keen to make the very mistake you have picked up on.  They may claim not to believe it, but they seem to accept it and its teachings word for word, and base their arguments on that understanding!!
Why the word "claim"?

Do you harbour the belief that people who tell you that they don't believe something actually do believe it?

Given that we're talking here about a cartoon (albeit one with a point to make, which it does), as far as you're concerned humour is very much something that other people do, isn't it?
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Hope on September 16, 2015, 09:57:08 PM
Why the word "claim"?

Do you harbour the belief that people who tell you that they don't believe something actually do believe it?
It's a claim that they make; its not for me or anyone else here to make a judgement on what they say as that particular decision is between God and an individual.

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Given that we're talking here about a cartoon (albeit one with a point to make, which it does), as far as you're concerned humour is very much something that other people do, isn't it?
NO, its just that very often cartoons can actually tell two stories, and there will be some who simply don't realise that they are as much the target of the joke as anyone else.  Over the months I known those I gave as examples you have all judged the Bible as if it means exactly what it says in the English of the 21st Century, forgetting that 1) it wasn't originally written in English, 2) that in some cases (and here Sass can join the party) the English that we are accustomed to seeing in it has changed meaning over time, and 3) very rarely does the full meaning of a word get transferred when translating that word into a different language.

Additionally, the current discussion about oral and literary traditions show how stuck in the 20th and 21st centuries several of you are as you insist on understanding the Bible exclusively through the filters that modern Western life, with its almost exclusive reliance on a literary tradition of communication impose on each of us.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Shaker on September 16, 2015, 10:01:20 PM
It's a claim that they make; its not for me or anyone else here to make a judgement on what they say as that particular decision is between God and an individual.
Not for atheists it isn't ::)
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on September 17, 2015, 11:24:48 PM
Dear Matty,
You actually think that stunted cartoon was brilliant? Take it from me, I'm a friend, cut back on the eye of newt for a bit.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 18, 2015, 12:47:53 AM
Dear Matty,
You actually think that stunted cartoon was brilliant? Take it from me, I'm a friend, cut back on the eye of newt for a bit.

With friends like you, who needs enemies! This to the point that, if you and I were the last two humans on Earth, I would commit suicide!

And I wouldn't take anything from you - even as a gift!
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on September 18, 2015, 01:41:36 AM
I would let you do that dear friend. I would lock you in a rubber room and sing to you through a speaker. Once a week I would turn on a overhead sprinkler to try and keep you clean. I would feed you only dry cat food and give you a colouring book and crayons so you can keep your mind exercised.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 18, 2015, 07:01:13 AM
I would let you do that dear friend. I would lock you in a rubber room and sing to you through a speaker. Once a week I would turn on a overhead sprinkler to try and keep you clean. I would feed you only dry cat food and give you a colouring book and crayons so you can keep your mind exercised.

You didn't have to post this to prove that you are an unpleasant arsehole - I already knew that!

You would have done well in the dungeons of the Inqisition.

In fact, this post shows, to me anyway, that you are, in all probability, seriously mentally disturbed. A disgusting post and the last of yours that I shall read, this post ensures that there will be no further responses to your posts by me no matter what!
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Andy on September 18, 2015, 08:53:37 AM
http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=10853.msg553591#msg553591

?

I wasn't accepting anything, just accepting people have different beliefs.

You have an issue with that?

I was polite enough to ask!

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Outrider on September 18, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
I would let you do that dear friend. I would lock you in a rubber room and sing to you through a speaker. Once a week I would turn on a overhead sprinkler to try and keep you clean. I would feed you only dry cat food and give you a colouring book and crayons so you can keep your mind exercised.

I think you missed the 'love thy neighbour' bit in there, somewhere. Hate the sin, love the sinner?

Or are you more of an eye for an eye, tooth for a disagreement kind of guy?

O.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on September 18, 2015, 03:24:57 PM
Mr. Out,
Good grief, it was a silly, never gonna happen, scenario. Matty and myself the only two people left on earth. Give your noggin a shake.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: Owlswing on September 18, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Dear Matty,
You actually think that stunted cartoon was brilliant? Take it from me, I'm a friend, cut back on the eye of newt for a bit.

With friends like you, who needs enemies! This to the point that, if you and I were the last two humans on Earth, I would commit suicide!

And I wouldn't take anything from you - even as a gift!

For goodness sake! Stop being a drama queen.

He was joking, at least that's how I read it.

It's a bit like telling a Christian they need to cut back on the communion wine 😉

Something, some on here, would have no problem telling our Christian posters.

I've read worse.

Maybe you should read back over the history of J C's insults to me on just about every subject on which I have made a post - and each and every one mentions, in one form or another, the fact that I am a witch, as here with the "eye of newt"! .

He was most assuredly NOT joking, he thinks that he is being super-clever which he could not be even if they transplanted a second brain.
Title: Re: Food for thought
Post by: OH MY WORLD! on September 19, 2015, 02:00:08 AM
Well I confess, I would stop you from killing yourself. You are not being persecuted here Matty. You go at Christianity and Christians every chance you get. Your stupid cartoon is the latest example. So be a big boy, don't snivel, take the jabs just as others have taken the jabs you've launched.