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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Faith Sharing Area => Topic started by: Bubbles on October 06, 2015, 07:25:52 AM
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The ability to have a relationship with the Creator, rather than with a set of rules.
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Religion IS a set of rules ?!!??!??!!?
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Are you stating a fact, which wouldn't be unreasonable, or asking a question, Trippy?
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A bit of both - MAYBE ?!!?
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I'm a Christian because I was brought up a Christian in a Christian country. Had I been brought up in Afghanistan, I'd be a Muslim. If I'd been brought up in Myanmar, I'd be a Buddhist. I make no bones about that.
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OK but that doesn't mean you have to ALWAYS be one, does it ?
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I'm a Christian because I was brought up a Christian in a Christian country. Had I been brought up in Afghanistan, I'd be a Muslim. If I'd been brought up in Myanmar, I'd be a Buddhist. I make no bones about that.
Is this a Christian country StevenH, many would disagree with you.
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Culturally we are still Christian. Even more so when most of us were growing up.
I lost my faith because reasons. Paganism suits me because it fits with my experiences. And I can just do my thing with no rule book.
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Is this a Christian country StevenH, many would disagree with you.
Historically Christian.
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Historically Christian.
Explain.
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Historically Christian.
Oh yes and, as Rhi says, culturally Christian up to a point. Yet not a Christian country, there can be no such thing surely. A country is just land and water, the people in it give it character and that changes.
As for what is about my religion that makes me feel it is the right one, I feel my faith is right for me, it 'fits' and is part of who I am.
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Explain.
I would have thought that that was crystal clear: Britain has been a Christian country for well over 1,000 years, and has a thoroughly Christian culture, even if the proportion of personally-committed believers is at an all-time low.
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I would have thought that that was crystal clear: Britain has been a Christian country for well over 1,000 years, and has a thoroughly Christian culture, even if the proportion of personally-committed believers is at an all-time low.
Where I live the landscape is dotted with centuries old churches. In fact yesterday I visited an Anglo-Saxon one as I wanted to photograph the medieval wall paintings there. Culturally this country is Christian with a smattering of our pagan past. Both are highly visible in our landscape and that is something I value hugely.
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Where I live the landscape is dotted with centuries old churches. In fact yesterday I visited an Anglo-Saxon one as I wanted to photograph the medieval wall paintings there. Culturally this country is Christian with a smattering of our pagan past. Both are highly visible in our landscape and that is something I value hugely.
Sheela-na-gig on Kilpeck (wherever that is) church (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sheela-na-gig,_Kilpeck_Church.jpg) - a nice confluence of Christian and pagan.
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Kilpeck church is in Herefordshire.
http://kilpeckchurch.org.uk/
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I'm a Christian because I was brought up a Christian in a Christian country. Had I been brought up in Afghanistan, I'd be a Muslim. If I'd been brought up in Myanmar, I'd be a Buddhist. I make no bones about that.
So why are there so many Christians in so many Countries who were born and raised there?
Are you trying to tell me you still believe such a statement given that things started changing over 2,000 years ago. Surely even you can see the nonsense in that statement?
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So why are there so many Christians in so many Countries who were born and raised there?
Are you trying to tell me you still believe such a statement given that things started changing over 2,000 years ago. Surely even you can see the nonsense in that statement?
What on earth are you on about?
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I don't really understand what you mean, Sassy, unless you're saying there are many Christians abroad who were born here. Well - yes there are.
(Steven see my previous post about Kilpeck church for info)
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Kilpeck church is in Herefordshire.
http://kilpeckchurch.org.uk/
This is near to where I live and my favourite church!
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I don't really understand what you mean, Sassy, unless you're saying there are many Christians abroad who were born here. Well - yes there are.
(Steven see my previous post about Kilpeck church for info)
Thanks for the info. A bit too far away for a visit, unfortunately.
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Christianity is all about God making Himself known to a somewhat reluctant mankind. Other religions are attempts by mankind to seek God.
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Christianity is all about God making Himself known to a somewhat reluctant mankind. Other religions are attempts by mankind to seek God.
So what?
Why does that make it right, rather than different?
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So what?
Why does that make it right, rather than different?
Because there is a hint of "I shall ignore you until I find you" or I'll try everything else first (St Augustine)?
Because the priority is your own effort rather than God?
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Seek and you shall find. Knock and it shall be opened to you.
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Because there is a hint of "I shall ignore you until I find you" or I'll try everything else first (St Augustine)?
Because the priority is your own effort rather than God?
So what?
None of this points to it being correct.
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Ah, well noted, I had not noticed.
I think the opening post poses a challenging question which sort of invites criticism.
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/////////////// I surrendered to a Christ I did not believe in...and found in Him a joy and peace, and a lasting presence in my life that has never left me.
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I surrendered to a Christ I did not believe in...and found in Him a joy and peace, and a lasting presence in my life that has never left me.
OH YEAH?!?!? Met Him personally have you??? No Thought not !!!
Nick
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I think, since the opening question is actually a challenge to the faith of many people, perhaps the thread should be moved.
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I surrendered to a Christ I did not believe in...and found in Him a joy and peace, and a lasting presence in my life that has never left me.
OH YEAH?!?!? Met Him personally have you??? No Thought not !!!
Nick
If you mean, have I experienced His presence in my life, then, yes - many, many times.
If you mean did I receive a joy and peace - unlooked for, which has never really left me, then, yes.
If you mean did I find that the questions I thought were important did not need answers in the light of that experience, then, yes.
In every way that I can measure, I encountered Him as an atheist in November 1977, and left atheism behind with no regret whatsoever.
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I'm a Christian because I was brought up a Christian in a Christian country. Had I been brought up in Afghanistan, I'd be a Muslim. If I'd been brought up in Myanmar, I'd be a Buddhist. I make no bones about that.
That explains why Trump is a wanker!
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Sentiment, dear boy, pure sentiment. My head is sceptical, but my heart is a true believer.
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If you mean, have I experienced His presence in my life, then, yes - many, many times.
If you mean did I receive a joy and peace - unlooked for, which has never really left me, then, yes.
If you mean did I find that the questions I thought were important did not need answers in the light of that experience, then, yes.
In every way that I can measure, I encountered Him as an atheist in November 1977, and left atheism behind with no regret whatsoever.
So my final line is correct then !!!