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Title: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on October 08, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
Up to 1 million Philosophical naturalists are being recalled because of noxious emission emanating from them.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Maeght on October 09, 2015, 02:20:58 AM
You really need to chill out a bit - you seem very obsessed with all this and it can't be healthy.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on October 09, 2015, 06:12:57 AM
You really need to chill out a bit - you seem very obsessed with all this and it can't be healthy.
Hot air from Philosophical naturalists sounds harmless but contributes to climate change.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Maeght on October 09, 2015, 07:12:50 AM
Yes, very funny. You do need to do something about your obsession though. Take a break or something.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: bluehillside Retd. on October 09, 2015, 09:43:12 AM
Vladdy of the Temple of the Perpetual Nihilism,

Once and for all...

Lets's leave aside for now that you always refuse to answer any question put to you, but demand that others answer the questions you ask.

Let's leave aside for now that you've never managed to suggest even a scintilla of a method to take your from your "whateverpopsintomyhead-ism" to an objective fact.

Let's leave aside for now that what you call "philosophical naturalism" is a straw man version of it that you've had to make up to suit your purpose.

Let's leave aside for now that the answers you are given you ignore, misrepresent or distort so egregiously that you destroy any attempt at rational debate.

Let's even leave aside for now your dummy-spitting, personal abuse and insult whenever you don't like something that's been said to you.

Really, let's put aside for now all that dishonesty, stupidity and bludgeoning nihilism and instead look at what you actually said - something typically crass as I recall about exchanging the "o" for an "i" in the "shot" of "hot shot" wasn't it? 

Why on earth do you think that I'd want to reply to that?

Really, would you?

So here's the answer you deserve once and for all: I think that a godless universe is much more likely than your theistic one for exactly the same reason that you think babies coming from tummies is a much more likely explanation than my Storkism.

Neither position requires an appeal to absolutes, neither has anything to do with "philosophical naturalism" (either the real meaning of it or your straw man version), neither requires measurable degrees of probability whether in SI units or anything else, and neither relies for its force on any characteristics of our beliefs that we may try to retro-fit to rationalise believing in them in the first place.

If ever you finally grasp this point, only then you will be able to understand the hopelessness of your position.

And in the unlikely event that you don't just resort to the usual Vlad playbook of distortion, evasion, insult etc in response and you do grasp it, your only way out of the corner into which you've painted yourself would be to explain why your "intuition" about a god is any more likely to be correct for objective fact purposes than my intuition about a stork, or indeed about anyone else's intuition about whatever else happens to pop into his head.

Final thing: if you respond with the usual Vlad playbook, I'll have no interest in replying; if just for once though you do try to engage with what's actually being said, then I will.   

Your call.   
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Outrider on October 09, 2015, 09:57:21 AM
Up to 1 million Philosophical naturalists are being recalled because of noxious emission emanating from them.

Should I presume you 'felt a little funny' and decided to 'go on' (and on, and on, and on...)?

O.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Owlswing on October 09, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
You really need to chill out a bit - you seem very obsessed with all this and it can't be healthy.
Hot air from Philosophical naturalists sounds harmless but contributes to climate change.

As does the effluvium from the heaps of crap that you pour out on this forum.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: BashfulAnthony on October 09, 2015, 10:36:42 AM


Dear bluehillside,

I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Owlswing on October 09, 2015, 10:44:43 AM


Dear bluehillside,

I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here

But you do suffer from a mental disorder. in your case unbridled arrogance brought on by religious conviction.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Sebastian Toe on October 09, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
Up to 1 million Philosophical naturalists are being recalled because of noxious emission emanating from them.

I hear that the recall has had to be cancelled.
Embarrassingly, the noxious fumes were traced to a very large private collection of shiny turds, where the owner (a Dawkins stalker it is rumoured)  had left a door ajar!  ::)
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: BashfulAnthony on October 09, 2015, 01:41:11 PM


Dear bluehillside,

I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here

But you do suffer from a mental disorder. in your case unbridled arrogance broughgt on by religious conviction.

Trying to get a reasoned response from you,  without vitriol in it, is like trying to knit fog.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: bluehillside Retd. on October 09, 2015, 03:04:18 PM
BA,

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I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here

Quite right too - I should of course have said, "The Temple of the Perpetually Violently Disordered Mind". 

I'll amend it now - thanks for spotting it. Naturally you won't mind will you because, while chucking abuse about on a different thread recently, you used as your defence: "This is not abuse, but a considered evaluation of your behaviour."

What's sauce for the goose and all that...
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Rhiannon on October 09, 2015, 04:00:55 PM
I keep getting Boy George singing Church of the Poisoned Mind now.  >:(
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: jeremyp on October 09, 2015, 09:01:29 PM

Trying to get a reasoned response from you,  without vitriol in it, is like trying to knit fog.
Look at the first post of this thread.

Seen it? Right, now answer the following:

On what planet would you have to reside if you were expecting reasoned responses to the OP of this thread?

Clue: it's not Earth.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on October 09, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
BA,

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I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here

Quite right too - I should of course have said, "The Temple of the Perpetually Violently Disordered Mind". 

Where's Wigginhall with his condemnation of people who take the piss out of the mentally ill? Oh, it's his hero Hillside that's doing it.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on October 09, 2015, 10:01:46 PM
BA,

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I thought you weren't into insults?  I am roundly accused of using insult, but not to the point of inferring mental disorder:  you ought to be ashamed  -  "Vladdy of the Temple of the Violently Disordered Mind,"  M5, on here

Quite right too - I should of course have said, "The Temple of the Perpetually Violently Disordered Mind". 

Funnily enough Hillside tomorrow (10 Oct) is World mental health day........
......chance to make up for crass comments perhaps?
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: bluehillside Retd. on October 09, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
Vlad,

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......chance to make up for crass comments perhaps?

Suggest you go first. You've got an awful lot more catching up to do than I have.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: bluehillside Retd. on October 09, 2015, 10:20:02 PM
Vladdy of the Temple of the Perpetual Nihilism,

Fixed it.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Jack Knave on October 10, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
Up to 1 million Philosophical naturalists are being recalled because of noxious emission emanating from them.
A similar thing for theists because of ethereal puss!!!
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Sassy on October 11, 2015, 09:17:40 AM
Up to 1 million Philosophical naturalists are being recalled because of noxious emission emanating from them.

Which end are these emissions coming from?  :o 8) ;D

(Well, you started it.)
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Sassy on October 11, 2015, 09:19:23 AM
I noticed some followed through at the rear! :o :D 8) ::)
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Gonnagle on October 13, 2015, 11:31:44 AM
Dear World,

http://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_vitzthum/materialism.html

One day I hope to understand :o :o then I to will be able to comprehend the mind of Vlad 8)

Gonnagle ( Number one fan of Vlad )
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Gonnagle on October 13, 2015, 11:37:06 AM
Dear Universe,

And there's more :o :o

http://skepdic.com/materialism.html

Gonnagle.
Title: Re: Philosophical Naturalism Recall
Post by: Outrider on October 13, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Dear World,

http://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_vitzthum/materialism.html

One day I hope to understand :o :o then I to will be able to comprehend the mind of Vlad 8)

Gonnagle ( Number one fan of Vlad )

I'm not sure, but I think a variant of the Pauli Exclusion Principle holds with Vlad's mind - only one person can know the state of it at a time, so if you do then suddenly whomever does at the moment won't any more. If we give it long enough, presumably random chance means Vlad himself might get a hold of it for long enough... Here's hoping!

O.