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Title: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 16, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
Enjoy


http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_6G_2_0gFDqFjq4gZbmDvJT4bnvnNwr-
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 16, 2015, 05:58:41 PM
Enjoy


http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_6G_2_0gFDqFjq4gZbmDvJT4bnvnNwr-
He's not on those fucking bongos mumbling about liking orange juice again is he?
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Outrider on December 16, 2015, 06:01:08 PM
He's not on those fucking bongos mumbling about liking sausages again is he.

Listen to the pot saying "Obviously you follow the New atheist Vlad line that you can be as offensive to the religious Feynman as you like and still be a good guy and have become insensitised to axe grinding." to the kettle...

O.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 16, 2015, 06:07:01 PM
Listen to the pot saying "Obviously you follow the New atheist Vlad line that you can be as offensive to the religious Feynman as you like and still be a good guy and have become insensitised to axe grinding." to the kettle...

O.

I've never claimed to be a good guy in the way a new atheist conceives of as a good guy.

I'm sure Feynman would have seen the funny side of my comments.

I'm merely suspicious of the notion that Dr Feynman must be a great bongo player and lyricist if his nuclear physics is anything to go by.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: jeremyp on December 16, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
He's not on those fucking bongos mumbling about liking orange juice again is he?
You only had to post that link into your browser to find out the answer to that question is "no".
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 16, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
You only had to post that link into your browser to find out the answer to that question is "no".
Checked it out it is a set of the professors lectures on the laws of physics on the channel of BJ Murphy
..................................................I wonder what the BJ stands for.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: jeremyp on December 16, 2015, 06:33:30 PM
Enjoy


http://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_6G_2_0gFDqFjq4gZbmDvJT4bnvnNwr-

Thanks for the link. I shall have fun with these.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: jeremyp on December 16, 2015, 06:34:53 PM
Checked it out it is a set of the professors lectures on the laws of physics on the channel of BJ Murphy
..................................................I wonder what the BJ stands for.
Please stop trying to bring every thread down to your crude smutty ignorant level.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 16, 2015, 11:58:30 PM
I've never claimed to be a good guy in the way a new atheist conceives of as a good guy.


And what way is that?
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 09:21:22 AM
And what way is that?
Well according to them it's only/mainly religion that makes Good people do bad things.
So since they haven't got religion their inherent saintliness remain unsullied.

Any way here is one the bongos clips where he is delivering his greatest Bongo hit ''I like juice''. It's actually not bad..........................................................

Is that a string theorist accompanying him?

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=feynman+bongos+orange+juice&view=detail&mid=ABC2BAD5A8B7C11CB68EABC2BAD5A8B7C11CB68E&FORM=VIRE5
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 17, 2015, 10:02:51 AM
Well according to them it's only/mainly religion that makes Good people do bad things.
So since they haven't got religion their inherent saintliness remain unsullied.


I think that's your filter coming into play again. Some atheists do say that religion can lead to bad things happening but I don't think anyone claims it is the only or main cause of bad things. Never seen any claims for saintliness either.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 10:06:56 AM
I think that's your filter coming into play again. Some atheists do say that religion can lead to bad things happening but I don't think anyone claims it is the only or main cause of bad things. Never seen any claims for saintliness either.
The root of all evil? written and presented by Richard Dawkins on channel 4.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Shaker on December 17, 2015, 10:14:53 AM
The root of all evil? written and presented by Richard Dawkins on channel 4.
What about it?
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 17, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
The root of all evil? written and presented by Richard Dawkins on channel 4.

According to Dawkins, a title which he didn't want to use but which Channel 4 insisted on in order to create controversy and raise awareness of the program. Also worth noting that the title has a question mark at the end of it.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Shaker on December 17, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
According to Dawkins, a title which he didn't want to use but which Channel 4 insisted on in order to create controversy and raise awareness of the program. Also worth noting that the title has a question mark at the end of it.
Also worth noting that in discussing the title foisted upon the programme Dawkins remarked on how absurd it is to regard any one specific thing as the cause of all evil.

Guess Vlad hadn't heard of that, otherwise I'm sure he would have said.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 11:57:19 AM
Also worth noting that in discussing the title foisted upon the programme Dawkins remarked on how absurd it is to regard any one specific thing as the cause of all evil.

Guess Vlad hadn't heard of that, otherwise I'm sure he would have said.
No I had heard that suggested.The good Dawkter having had the same difficulty with other of his titles apparently...............

The programme was reissued as the God Delusion........fits in with the franchise I suppose.

Apparently the prog was heavily edited to give it a certain feel and non extreme religionists edited out which maintained the panto villain image of those who remained.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Shaker on December 17, 2015, 12:04:48 PM
No I had heard that suggested.The good Dawkter having had the same difficulty with other of his titles apparently...............
Haven't heard of that. Which ones?

Quote
Apparently the prog was heavily edited to give it a certain feel and non extreme religionists edited out which maintained the panto villain image of those who remained.
News to me. Programmes are edited because generally far more material is compiled than can be broadcast (although usually it appears on DVD releases as is the case here) so the rough cut has to be trimmed down to fit into a particular TV format, taking ad breaks into account on commercial television (30 minutes/60 minutes/90 minutes etc.).
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: jeremyp on December 17, 2015, 01:19:24 PM

Apparently the prog was heavily edited to give it a certain feel and non extreme religionists edited out

Didn't he interview a C of E bishop?

Vlad lies again.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 17, 2015, 01:27:56 PM

Apparently the prog was heavily edited to give it a certain feel and non extreme religionists edited out which maintained the panto villain image of those who remained.

If so it was done by Channel 4 for the same reasons I would think.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 01:31:13 PM
Didn't he interview a C of E bishop?

Vlad lies again.

Three fundementalists    Alister McGrath on the cutting room floor. Criticism of the cuts led to release of an Uncut version on DVD.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 01:33:18 PM
Didn't he interview a C of E bishop?

Vlad lies again.
Don't forget the subsequent critique of Dawkin's bias representation of religion.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Shaker on December 17, 2015, 01:33:57 PM
Three fundementalists    Alister McGrath on the cutting room floor. Criticism of the cuts led to release of an Uncut version on DVD.
I wouldn't have thought of Richard Harries as a fundamentalist - seems a kindly old stick to me. But each to their own.

The cutting room floor is too good for the likes of Alister "Hm, yes, but therefore in a very real, if you will, sense, so to speak as it were" McGrath.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Shaker on December 17, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Don't forget the subsequent critique of Dawkin's bias representation of religion.
Examples?
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 04:10:27 PM
Examples?
I'm not sure what you want me to provide here,reviews of The God Delusion since the film became the fil of the book and was renamed which criticise Dawkins for taking a singular view largely based on fundementalists? or criticism of his view that religion has not done anything good of significance and is mainly bad?
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 17, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
I'm not sure what you want me to provide here,reviews of The God Delusion since the film became the fil of the book and was renamed which criticise Dawkins for taking a singular view largely based on fundementalists? or criticism of his view that religion has not done anything good of significance and is mainly bad?

You said not to forget the subsequent critigue so surely you know what you were referring to.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 17, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
You said not to forget the subsequent critigue so surely you know what you were referring to.
Yes but I'm doing the decent thing by asking Shaker.
Title: Re: A Feynman Christmas present
Post by: Maeght on December 17, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
Easier I'd have thought to just show examples of what you were referring to.