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General Category => Science and Technology => Topic started by: Gordon on March 22, 2016, 09:19:52 AM

Title: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Gordon on March 22, 2016, 09:19:52 AM
Jim Al-khalili programme on BBC4 at 9pm tonight.

Sounds like it will be worth watching.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on March 23, 2016, 09:23:50 PM
Always up for a bit of Jim.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on March 26, 2016, 06:23:20 PM
Well, we now know how it started now lets see how it is all going to end.  :)

I think I've asked this before, why do the electrons go round or associate themselves with the nucleus if they are of the opposite charge?
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 26, 2016, 07:00:21 PM
Well, we now know how it started now lets see how it is all going to end.  :)

I think I've asked this before, why do the electrons go round or associate themselves with the nucleus if they are of the opposite charge?
Don't be silly! "God" makes them do it.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on March 26, 2016, 07:28:12 PM
Don't be silly! "God" makes them do it.
It must be a busy chappy to keep all those electrons in place.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 26, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
It must be a busy chappy to keep all those electrons in place.

It's easy for him because he's omnipotent. You see, my argument is watertight.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on March 26, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
It's easy for him because he's omnipotent. You see, my argument is watertight.  ;D
>:(  You theists are Sooo Good, however will I win the argument  ::)
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 26, 2016, 09:59:08 PM
>:(  You theists are Sooo Good, however will I win the argument  ::)

You can't! All you can do is try to get us to see reason.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: splashscuba on March 27, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
Well, we now know how it started now lets see how it is all going to end.  :)

I think I've asked this before, why do the electrons go round or associate themselves with the nucleus if they are of the opposite charge?
Because, as the song says "opposites attract"
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 27, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Because, as the song says "opposites attract"

So why don't they just stick together instead of remaining separate?
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: splashscuba on March 27, 2016, 01:02:33 PM
So why don't they just stick together instead of remaining separate?
Ah, that's down to quantum mechanics. The electron can only exist in discreet orbits which correspond to the energy they have.

Bear in mind, that the simple view of atoms as containing little balls which are electrons, protons and neutrons, is just a model we use to visualize how the world of subatomic particle work. It's much more subtle than that as described by the laws of quantum mechanics.
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 27, 2016, 01:06:34 PM
Ah, that's down to quantum mechanics. The electron can only exist in discreet orbits which correspond to the energy they have.

Bear in mind, that the simple view of atoms as containing little balls which are electrons, protons and neutrons, is just a model we use to visualize how the world of subatomic particle work. It's much more subtle than that as described by the laws of quantum mechanics.

Thank goodness I don't have a clue about it ... I'm too old to learn new things because I can hardly remember the stuff I learned in the past.  :)
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on March 27, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
Because, as the song says "opposites attract"
There's a caveat to that...
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on March 27, 2016, 01:46:43 PM
Thank goodness I don't have a clue about it ... I'm too old to learn new things because I can hardly remember the stuff I learned in the past.  :)
...your name is LEONARD, LEON NARD. OK?
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Leonard James on March 27, 2016, 01:49:05 PM
...your name is LEONARD, LEON NARD. OK?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Curiously, that is one name I have never forgotten!

Narcissistic I suppose!  ;)
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: Jack Knave on April 01, 2016, 07:48:34 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Curiously, that is one name I have never forgotten!

Narcissistic I suppose!  ;)
And now we know how it seems it is going to end.   :o :(

I'm too upset at the moment to talk about...  :(  :(  :(
Title: Re: The Beginning and End of the Universe
Post by: john on April 02, 2016, 11:19:48 AM
After watching the second programme I have decided to cash in my pension early.

Bye guys been nice meeting yaal.