Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sriram on March 27, 2016, 05:32:17 AM
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There ought to be a limit to nonsense.
Some woman just pushes a child gently to make him go forward ....and she is arrested?! ::)
http://us.cnn.com/videos/justice/2016/03/26/teacher-arrested-knocking-over-child-orig-vstan-dlewis.cnn
Don't American police have more serious things to do.....like shooting unarmed teenagers?!
Sriram
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A gentle push? I think you need to watch the video again Sriram.
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It was hardly a gentle push, and appeared to be quite deliberate to me.
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She probably didn't intend that he fall over, but he did, she had her hands full and she tried pushing him with her tummy, a bit too forcefully.
No it isn't the way a teacher should treat any child, and definately not a special needs child.
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She probably didn't intend that he fall over, but he did, she had her hands full and she tried pushing him with her tummy, a bit too forcefully.
She kneed him in the back hard enough to knock him over.
Did she have her mouth full also?
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Difficult to believe that a child pushed down by mistake is a crime deserving arrest. How many children must be falling down every day due to someone's minor mistake at home or in school or at play?!!!
Absolutely weird!
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That doesn't look like an error to me, but intent.
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Difficult to believe that a child pushed down by mistake is a crime deserving arrest. How many children must be falling down every day due to someone's minor mistake at home or in school or at play?!!!
Absolutely weird!
It didn't look like a mistake, but a deliberate act to hurt the child.
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That doesn't look like an error to me, but intent.
The fact that she blatantly kneed the kid out of the way gives it away somewhat.
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The fact that she blatantly kneed the kid out of the way gives it away somewhat.
Quite.
And it does beg the question whether this is the first and only time she's done such a thing.
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She probably didn't intend the child to fall on its face but there was certainly an intent to barge him out of the way as far as I could see.
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There you are, Sriram. Most, if not all of the posters here, didn't just take your word for it, they looked at the evidence as presented on the video..and most came to a totally different conclusion to you. I saw a lady seemingly deliberately and certainly not 'gently' push a small child with her left knee and thigh such that the child fell forward with some force. I have to ask if you actually looked at the video, or just looked at the still photo where it is not clear at all?
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Or whether in Sriram's world this is acceptable, normal even.
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She probably didn't intend the child to fall on its face but there was certainly an intent to barge him out of the way as far as I could see.
Yeah....that's the point. She did not intend the kid to fall. She just pushed the kid to make him move forward because she was carrying something.....and the kid happened to fall forward. It can happen to anyone.
Any of you could shoo your kids and their friends inside after play or outside to play by moving them along with your hands and any one of them could fall. Its a normal occurrence. I am sure all of you have done it sometime or the other. Most certainly not warranting an arrest. How ridiculous is that!!
enki....good point. All the people here saw the video and came to the wrong conclusion that the woman deserved to be arrested. Shows how minds work in certain like minded groups......more so if they feel social/peer pressure to react in certain ways......however ridiculous. LOL!!
Unbelievable!! Ha Ha!!
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I also think that Sri has misrepresented the events that followed the events of the video. The script that was superimposed indicated that she wasn't arrested but turned herself into the police. In other words, she recognised that she had done something wrong (sinful) and needed to accept responsibility.
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I also think that Sri has misrepresented the events that followed the events of the video. The script that was superimposed indicated that she wasn't arrested but turned herself into the police. In other words, she recognised that she had done something wrong (sinful) and needed to accept responsibility.
Well.....ok. In that case she is crazy. She should have picked up the kid.....rubbed him down....said sorry.... and told him to go along and play. Any normal person would do that.
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Yeah....that's the point. She did not intend the kid to fall. She just pushed the kid to make him move forward because she was carrying something.....and the kid happened to fall forward. It can happen to anyone.
Any of you could shoo your kids and their friends inside after play or outside to play by moving them along with your hands and any one of them could fall. Its a normal occurrence. I am sure all of you have done it sometime or the other. Most certainly not warranting an arrest. How ridiculous is that!!
enki....good point. All the people here saw the video and came to the wrong conclusion that the woman deserved to be arrested. Shows how minds work in certain like minded groups......more so if they feel social/peer pressure to react in certain ways......however ridiculous. LOL!!
Unbelievable!! Ha Ha!!
I find it quite interesting that you think that everyone "came to the wrong conclusion that the woman deserved to be arrested". I certainly didn't say that, and, reading back, I can't say that others have actually said that. Some may think that, others may not, but until they tell you, you have no way of knowing.
No, I(and certain others) came to the conclusion independently that your idea that it was a gentle push was wrong, and that the cause of the fall was her violent push with her knee and thigh. Why do you have to justify to yourself in this instance that anyone who disagrees with you must, almost by necessity, be prey to social/peer pressure rather than coming to their own conclusions? Or, if that is true, then it must be true for you, also.
I just take it that you and I disagree on this. C'est la vie. :)
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Yeah....that's the point. She did not intend the kid to fall. She just pushed the kid to make him move forward because she was carrying something.....and the kid happened to fall forward. It can happen to anyone.
Any of you could shoo your kids and their friends inside after play or outside to play by moving them along with your hands and any one of them could fall. Its a normal occurrence. I am sure all of you have done it sometime or the other. Most certainly not warranting an arrest. How ridiculous is that!!
enki....good point. All the people here saw the video and came to the wrong conclusion that the woman deserved to be arrested. Shows how minds work in certain like minded groups......more so if they feel social/peer pressure to react in certain ways......however ridiculous. LOL!!
Unbelievable!! Ha Ha!!
Arse.
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Arse.
Dit-arse-to
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Yeah....that's the point. She did not intend the kid to fall. She just pushed the kid to make him move forward because she was carrying something.....and the kid happened to fall forward. It can happen to anyone.
In that same situation, most adults would tell the child to get out of the way with their voice, not their knee. That's why I asked was her mouth full also.
enki....good point. All the people here saw the video and came to the wrong conclusion that the woman deserved to be arrested.
She assaulted another person.
If you had bothered to watch the video, you'd see that she immediately realised that she shouldn't have done what she did, then, as Hope points out, she fessed up and turned herself in to the police.
Even she disagrees with you.
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In that same situation, most adults would tell the child to get out of the way with their voice, not their knee. That's why I asked was her mouth full also.
She assaulted another person.
If you had bothered to watch the video, you'd see that she immediately realised that she shouldn't have done what she did, then, as Hope points out, she fessed up and turned herself in to the police.
Even she disagrees with you.
She probably is not as evolved as Sriram and doesn't realise that kneeing a child in the back is perfectly Ok, if they have learning difficulties, because after all it's just the way the world works
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I don't know if this is just a group effort at opposing anything I say ...or whether you people are plain weird. Probably a bit of both.
There is apparently a move towards creating a synthetic, clinical, 'plastic', 'contamination free' kind of society.....devoid of any natural wisdom and spontaneity.....and run entirely by courts and police. A 'ego heaven' of sorts. :D Doomed to fail.....I am afraid.
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I don't know if this is just a group effort at opposing anything I say ...or whether you people are plain weird. Probably a bit of both.
There is apparently a move towards creating a synthetic, clinical, 'plastic', 'contamination free' kind of society.....devoid of any natural wisdom and spontaneity.....and run entirely by courts and police. A 'ego heaven' of sorts. :D Doomed to fail.....I am afraid.
Yep, and the woman turned herself in just to annoy you.
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Yep, and the woman turned herself in just to annoy you.
She has to be crazy. All that she should have done is to rub the kid down, give him a kiss on the cheeks and send him running. She turned herself in...shows how the society is moving. Nothing short of ridiculous!
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She has to be crazy. All that she should have done is to rub the kid down, give him a kiss on the cheeks and send him running. She turned herself in...shows how the society is moving. Nothing short of ridiculous!
Ah yes stopping adults committing violence on children, just dreadful.
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Ah yes stopping adults committing violence on children, just dreadful.
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She has to be crazy. All that she should have done is to rub the kid down, give him a kiss on the cheeks and send him running. She turned herself in...shows how the society is moving. Nothing short of ridiculous!
Peoples behaviour, obviously, is affected when they know everything that happens is caught on video.
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I don't know if this is just a group effort at opposing anything I say ...or whether you people are plain weird. Probably a bit of both.
Or maybe everyone just thinks you are wrong, ever considered that?
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She was a bit too forceful, I doubt she knew her own strength and may have been as surprised as anyone that the child fell over. I know I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.