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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Sassy on March 31, 2016, 11:49:24 AM
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God help us when it comes to the you and I, and GOD discussions on the forum.
Strange how people see only two in a discussion about God and ignore the third person who is the relevant one of the conversation.
The discussion by the other parties above refer to God as 'it' a lot but when speaking about faith do not acknowledge the God being at the centre of the conversation.
The argument passes backwards and forwards, too and fro and whatever way you want to explain or express it's course.
But the person at the centre God is not acknowledge as being a person.
I see how people also become about grammar, English language and even spelling errors. Not about the topic but about personal innuendo and insult. It becomes personal attack and the true centre of debate disappears.
So why is it, people do not ask for an explanation rather than assume and rush in where angels fear to tread?
Do atheists and agnostics ever know enough or learn enough about the subject of God before they get involved in discussions about him?
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A you seriously suggesting that "God" is a person? :o :o :o
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I certainly believe God is a person, Leonard. Part of the Trinity, God the Father. Before anyone jumps in, I'm not saying God is a ''man'' because of the traditional use of the word ''Father''; He is a spirit but He is definitely a person, imo.
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I certainly believe God is a person, Leonard. Part of the Trinity, God the Father. Before anyone jumps in, I'm not saying God is a ''man'' because of the traditional use of the word ''Father''; He is a spirit but He is definitely a person, imo.
Do you mean a person like us, who has to go to the loo, cut his toe-nails and hair, etc. If not, what do you mean by person?
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Moderator:
This OP is clearly outwith the ethos of the Faith Sharing Area so I'm moving it to Ethics & Freethought, where issues involving grammar and terminology can be freely discussed and debated.
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God help us when it comes to the you and I, and GOD discussions on the forum.
Strange how people see only two in a discussion about God and ignore the third person who is the relevant one of the conversation.
The discussion by the other parties above refer to God as 'it' a lot but when speaking about faith do not acknowledge the God being at the centre of the conversation.
The argument passes backwards and forwards, too and fro and whatever way you want to explain or express it's course.
But the person at the centre God is not acknowledge as being a person.
I see how people also become about grammar, English language and even spelling errors. Not about the topic but about personal innuendo and insult. It becomes personal attack and the true centre of debate disappears.
So why is it, people do not ask for an explanation rather than assume and rush in where angels fear to tread?
Do atheists and agnostics ever know enough or learn enough about the subject of God before they get involved in discussions about him?
Oh Sass you never fail to amuse when you accuse atheists and agnostics of not knowing about the subject of the deity! ;D ;D ;D NO ONE knows anything about it in reality, as it is all guesswork and assumptions.
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'Faith', floo, rather than guesses and assumptions.
Len, I told you that I believe God is a person but he is a spirit, not a flesh and blood human being. He has a character and made us, people, in His image. Jesus is his idea of himself as a human being. These are the basic Christian beliefs.
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Do you mean a person like us, who has to go to the loo, cut his toe-nails and hair, etc. If not, what do you mean by person?
I suppose it depends on what one defines a 'person' as, Len. Are the characteristics you list above the the 'USP's of a person, or is there something far more complex? Like Brownie, I'd refer to God as a person because, in my view, the underlying nature of 'person' is the spiritual nature of humanity.
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'Faith', floo, rather than guesses and assumptions.
Len, I told you that I believe God is a person but he is a spirit, not a flesh and blood human being. He has a character and made us, people, in His image. Jesus is his idea of himself as a human being. These are the basic Christian beliefs.
Faith is still based on guesswork and assumptions.
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'Faith', floo, rather than guesses and assumptions.
Len, I told you that I believe God is a person but he is a spirit, not a flesh and blood human being. He has a character and made us, people, in His image. Jesus is his idea of himself as a human being. These are the basic Christian beliefs.
Faith = Guesswork, assumptions and gullibility.
It is the excuse people give themselves to believe something for which they have no evidence.
When you have evidence, you do not need faith!
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'Faith', floo, rather than guesses and assumptions.
Len, I told you that I believe God is a person but he is a spirit, not a flesh and blood human being. He has a character and made us, people, in His image. Jesus is his idea of himself as a human being. These are the basic Christian beliefs.
OK. :)
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Faith is still based on guesswork and assumptions.
Well if you are right floo I will not find out one day :D.
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Well if you are right floo I will not find out one day :D.
Faith is not a pathway to truth.
You can see this easily as people use faith to come to mutually exclusive beliefs about truth.
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Do you mean a person like us, who has to go to the loo, cut his toe-nails and hair, etc. If not, what do you mean by person?
:)
Reminds me of that song
If God had a name, what would it be?
And would you call it to His face?
If you were faced with Him in all His glory
What would you ask if you had just one question?
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
If God had a face, what would it look like?
And would you want to see?
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in Jesus and the saints and all the prophets?
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
He's trying to make His way home
Back up to Heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in Rome
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
Just trying to make His way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to Heaven all alone
Just trying to make His way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in Rome
Read more: Joan Osborne - What If God Was One Of Us Lyrics | MetroLyrics
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:)
Reminds me of that song
If God had a name, what would it be?
And would you call it to His face?
If you were faced with Him in all His glory
What would you ask if you had just one question?
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
If God had a face, what would it look like?
And would you want to see?
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and in Jesus and the saints and all the prophets?
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
He's trying to make His way home
Back up to Heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in Rome
And yeah, yeah God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
What if God was one of us
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make His way home?
Just trying to make His way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to Heaven all alone
Just trying to make His way home
Nobody calling on the phone
Except for the pope maybe in Rome
Read more: Joan Osborne - What If God Was One Of Us Lyrics | MetroLyrics
It's a pity that we don't know anything about the cause of the universe yet, but that does give us the chance to invent all sorts of amusing stories about it. :)
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Do atheists and agnostics ever know enough or learn enough about the subject of God before they get involved in discussions about him?
I have done my homework on this Sass and know plenty.
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I suppose it depends on what one defines a 'person' as, Len. Are the characteristics you list above the the 'USP's of a person, or is there something far more complex? Like Brownie, I'd refer to God as a person because, in my view, the underlying nature of 'person' is the spiritual nature of humanity.
Which therefore makes your God human, hence the anthropomorphism of God and gods. And explains where Gods have come from; the mind of man.
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Moderator:
This OP is clearly outwith the ethos of the Faith Sharing Area so I'm moving it to Ethics & Freethought, where issues involving grammar and terminology can be freely discussed and debated.
I thought in the earlier post to Leonard, you removed his posts because of the area it was in.
When you said to my earlier thread it was not in the area this thread was in so could not remove the reported posts.
You refused to move it to the area that would stop them posting such things.
Now you have moved a thread not requested to be removed from an area they could not do such things.,
WHO DO WE REPORT THE MODERATOR TO FOR PREJUDCIAL ACTIONS AGAINST A CHRISTIAN MEMBER.
You refused to move my thread to the other area., Now you remove my thread from that area to this.
Sorry but I want it putting back and I want to make a complaint against you as a moderator being biased.
The thread IS NOT ABOUT GRAMMAR AND AS SUCH THE RULES ABOUT DERAILING THREADS NEED TO IMPLEMENTED.
2.c Thread Derails
a. Posts that are clearly intrusive and bear no relation to the on-going discussion.
Moaning about grammar etc is an intusive post and no relation to the on-going discussion.
Or are those rules only for the Christians and atheists exempt.
May Almighty God, close this forum if someone does not do something about the moderators abusing their powers and being prejudice towards Christians.,..To Gods Glory and in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen,.
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"May Almighty God, close this forum if someone does not do something about the moderators abusing their powers and being prejudice towards Christians.,..To Gods Glory and in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen,."
Oh blimey, watch it mods. She's got the big guns out!
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Moderator:
I thought in the earlier post to Leonard, you removed his posts because of the area it was in.
When you said to my earlier thread it was not in the area this thread was in so could not remove the reported posts.
You refused to move it to the area that would stop them posting such things.
Now you have moved a thread not requested to be removed from an area they could not do such things.,
That was a separate threat that I refused to move TO the FSA because some of the replies weren't suited to there and I wasn't prepared to junk posts made in good faith by other members. I have since taken exactly the same approach in the case of another thread (He Is Risen) You should have started your thread in FSA in the first place.
WHO DO WE REPORT THE MODERATOR TO FOR PREJUDCIAL ACTIONS AGAINST A CHRISTIAN MEMBER.
You refused to move my thread to the other area., Now you remove my thread from that area to this.
Sorry but I want it putting back and I want to make a complaint against you as a moderator being biased.
This thread was moved FROM the FSA because it was outwith the ethos of that Board for the reasons I gave in the Mod Post when I moved it. I suggest you read the 'About this Board' sticky on FSA.
Feel free to contact Jakswan.
The thread IS NOT ABOUT GRAMMAR AND AS SUCH THE RULES ABOUT DERAILING THREADS NEED TO IMPLEMENTED.
Moaning about grammar etc is an intusive post and no relation to the on-going discussion.
Or are those rules only for the Christians and atheists exempt.
Try re-reading your own OP.
May Almighty God, close this forum if someone does not do something about the moderators abusing their powers and being prejudice towards Christians.,..To Gods Glory and in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen,.
No doubt time will tell if your prayer works.
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May Almighty God, close this forum if someone does not do something about the moderators abusing their powers and being prejudice towards Christians.,..To Gods Glory and in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen,.
[my emphasis]
Yes, I've always thought the moderators give the Christians an easy ride too.
In other news, God hasn't closed the forum. That means he must not exist.
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God is possibly posting on this forum in disguise, maybe it is one of the posters who challenge Sass's nonsense. ;D
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God is possibly posting on this forum in disguise, maybe it is one of the posters who challenge Sass's nonsense. ;D
Not in disguise.
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I have a few questions ...
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Not in disguise.
Are you triune?
Or just the one?
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Not in disguise.
Soooo..... which one?
http://www.godchecker.com/
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Not in disguise.
'Scuse me, yer 'onor, but where are the other 25 posts credited to you?
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Are you triune?
Or just the one?
Yes.
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'Scuse me, yer 'onor, but where are the other 25 posts credited to you?
Before today, I hadn't seen fit to post since september 2013.
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Soooo..... which one?
http://www.godchecker.com/
Sorry, I don't play favourites.
Although, obviously, the atheists are fucked.
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I have a few questions ...
Only a few? Isn't that a tad arrogant?
I have an infinite number, which will keep God busy!
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Wasn't there a God on the beeb forum? Could it be the same one or another God? There are so many around it's so hard to tell!
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Before today, I hadn't seen fit to post since september 2013.
I hope you enjoyed your sabbatical. Or have you been poorly?
Now that you're back, can you sort out these arguing followers of yours, and tell us who is and who isn't right. Please?
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Before today, I hadn't seen fit to post since september 2013.
I thought you hadn't 'posted' anything for the last odd 2000 years! I hope you're going to make more sense this time round!!!
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Are you triune?
Or just the one?
Yes.
Still suffering from terrible communication problems, I see...
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Yes.
Still suffering from terrible communication problems, I see...
The bugger has been vague and contradictory all Its life.
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Now that you're back, can you sort out these arguing followers of yours, and tell us who is and who isn't right. Please?
I said I don't play favourites. I have a rule: never discuss religion or politics.
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I said I don't play favourites. I have a rule: never discuss religion or politics.
OK.. let's talk about sex then. What do think about gays?
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Moderator:
That was a separate threat that I refused to move TO the FSA because some of the replies weren't suited to there and I wasn't prepared to junk posts made in good faith by other members. I have since taken exactly the same approach in the case of another thread (He Is Risen) You should have started your thread in FSA in the first place.
This thread was moved FROM the FSA because it was outwith the ethos of that Board for the reasons I gave in the Mod Post when I moved it. I suggest you read the 'About this Board' sticky on FSA.
Feel free to contact Jakswan.
Try re-reading your own OP.
Nothing to do with my opening post. Your first initial reaction to removing the posts by Leonard and I think it was Shaker confirmed you believed my thread was in the correct part of the forum and in the part you had already said they could not make those type of comments. It was later after discussion with them that you moved it to this section.
So sorry it doesn't wash. The evidence is that you originally removed their replies because of the area it was in.
Then later you removed my thread to this section so they could reply with what they wanted.
When I asked you to remove the l thread from this section you refused yet happily without being asked removed my second thread back to here to allow them again to post something off topic and nothing to do with the thread.
Two threads. First thread in this section you said they could answer as they chose as not in faith sharing section.
I asked you to move it to there and you refused.
When I posted a different thread in faith sharing section you removed their posts telling them they could not make those replies in that section. Then later remove the thread to this section so they could without being asked or telling me.
Now if that is NOT double standards by bowing down to the atheists and pagans ignoring the believers rights in each section showing your own bias then what is.. No excuses you know exactly what you did and is showed double standards and bias toward believers.
No doubt time will tell if your prayer works.
It already has...
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This is just one of those forums.... One where I asked God to close it down because it wrongly accused believers and banned them when they were not at fault because they began treating people badly. That includes myself.
So I know God answers my prayers and it was not the only one... the others do not even have this left.
I know that some are still in the process of shutting down. Like a desert lacking water.
Hence so many here. Most of us do very little posting now. But there are a few I still post on.
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OK.. let's talk about sex then. What do think about gays?
He is on the wrong forum do you not think... Never discusses religion or politics...
Religion and ethics forum kinda gives the forums agenda away... WUM do you think, Leonard?
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Moderator:
Sass
You're getting confused and are now adding a 3rd thread into the mix - for the final time: so please pay attention.
1. You're now adding in the 'Failed Doctrines' thread from FSA, which you started there. It was from this thread that I removed posts by Len and Owl as being outwith the FSA ethos, and I made a Mod Post to note this and Len and Owl both responded to say they understood, and I later removed their posts and my Mod Post from your thread so as to keep within the 'faith ethos' of FSA - this thread is still on FSA.
2. You started 'Are sins like homosexuality still condemned in the New Covenant of Christ?' on R&E rather than FSA and I declined to move it since it had been replied to and I saw no reason to simply remove posts made by other members in good faith - this thread remains in R&E and is quite active. I took the same approach in the 'He Is Risen' thread.
3. You started this thread in FSA and it was moved here since the OP wasn't in line with the FSA ethos (see About this Board on FSA).
End of!
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He is on the wrong forum do you not think... Never discusses religion or politics...
Religion and ethics forum kinda gives the forums agenda away... WUM do you think, Leonard?
Undoubtedly my dear, but a little light humour doesn't come amiss at times. :)
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He is on the wrong forum do you not think... Never discusses religion or politics...
Religion and ethics forum kinda gives the forums agenda away... WUM do you think, Leonard?
I received a request from somebody on this forum (you in fact) to close it down. However, when I got here, I found you are still posting, so I assume you have changed your mind.
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He is on the wrong forum do you not think... Never discusses religion or politics...
Religion and ethics forum kinda gives the forums agenda away... WUM do you think, Leonard?
It takes a WUM to know a WUM. ;D
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It takes a WUM to know a WUM. ;D
Actually, no it doesn't. Either that, or we are all WUMs.
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Yes.
Maybe a silly question, but why do you need to post?
You posting is a bit like that newspaper titled "The Psychic News", why do they need a newspaper?
The principle is the same.
I saw a truck driving on the motorway from a company that makes disposable table ware, they don't need any trucks, they only need a phone?
Understanding life is so difficult these days.
ippy
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This is just one of those forums.... One where I asked God to close it down because it wrongly accused believers and banned them when they were not at fault because they began treating people badly. That includes myself.
So I know God answers my prayers and it was not the only one... the others do not even have this left.
So when do you think he will close this one down?
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Well, I don't know about Sassy's prayer and its lack of success, but I decided to pray to God to close down as many churches as possible in this country. So far, the results have been extremely successful. Could this be the evidence that I'm looking for that God actually exists? ;)
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Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )
Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".
Gonnagle.
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Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )
Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".
Gonnagle.
A bold claim, Gonners. How would you know that?
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Dear Leonard,
I am in a cynical frame of mind, religion and politics divide, and my God is a very polite God.
Gonnagle.
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Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )
Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".
Gonnagle.
How do you know? ;D
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I said I don't play favourites. I have a rule: never discuss religion or politics.
Never or only not at the dinner table with people you don't know all that well? Of course, you would know them, apologies. I would add 'racism' to your list, 'dinner party racism' should definitely be banned and you can do it. Respectfully, Lyn
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God help us when it comes to the you and I, and GOD discussions on the forum.
Strange how people see only two in a discussion about God and ignore the third person who is the relevant one of the conversation.
The discussion by the other parties above refer to God as 'it' a lot but when speaking about faith do not acknowledge the God being at the centre of the conversation.
The argument passes backwards and forwards, too and fro and whatever way you want to explain or express it's course.
But the person at the centre God is not acknowledge as being a person.
I see how people also become about grammar, English language and even spelling errors. Not about the topic but about personal innuendo and insult. It becomes personal attack and the true centre of debate disappears.
So why is it, people do not ask for an explanation rather than assume and rush in where angels fear to tread?
Do atheists and agnostics ever know enough or learn enough about the subject of God before they get involved in discussions about him?
You need to amend the title of this thread.
Try this:
How gods disappear as the third person when non-believers speak
There, I'm sure you'll agree that's much better.
Plural you see...not singular.
That would also cover you if you were talking to an Australian Aborigine about the Great Dreamtime Snake.
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Maybe a silly question, but why do you need to post?
Who said I do?
Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)
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Who said I do?
Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)
OK then, what am I thinking riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ...
... now.
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Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )
Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".
Gonnagle.
Dear Gonnagle (please not the large "G" because I don't need to demean people or other deities)
Clearly you are unable to accept the evidence before your eyes because I certainly did use the word "fucked".
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Watch your language young Godfrey, I'll tell your mum.
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Dear god,
Other deities, other fuckin deities, I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God, although according to Floo you can be a bit cantankerous at times, your nose might have been out of joint on that day.
Gonnagle.
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Dear god,
Other deities, other fuckin deities, I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God, although according to Floo you can be a bit cantankerous at times, your nose might have been out of joint on that day.
Gonnagle.
That manual is biased.
Why believe what that manual says?
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I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God
Are you talking about the Bible? Because parts of the Bible imply that there are other gods. The reason given for not having any other gods before Yahweh is that Yahweh is jealous, not that the other gods are fake.
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Dear Jeremyp,
Naw, I am talking about the Haynes manual on car maintenance :o :o
Gonnagle.
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My husband studies Haynes manuals religiously, come to think of it. I'd never before considered him to be religious though he does have an inner glow.
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Dear Jeremyp,
Naw, I am talking about the Haynes manual on car maintenance :o :o
Gonnagle.
Citron eq, Gonners, French for "lemon"? Sounds about right.
ippy.
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Who said I do?
Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)
Of course, you know all, I'm just a mere mortal.
ippy
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I received a request from somebody on this forum (you in fact) to close it down. However, when I got here, I found you are still posting, so I assume you have changed your mind.
Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them.
22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man.
23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
24 But the word of God grew and multiplied.
Still want to be God? I think a name change in order... you cannot give God the Glory and I am sure you do not want to make out that you are speaking for him.
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
My advice is cease from the name and stop speaking out as if speaking for God or as God. Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...
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Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...
Yeah, you'd better watch out - this god really means business when he says you'll die! Adam only got to live 930 after god told him he'd die - so WATCH IT!
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Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
Still want to be God? I think a name change in order... you cannot give God the Glory and I am sure you do not want to make out that you are speaking for him.
My advice is cease from the name and stop speaking out as if speaking for God or as God. Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...
The irony is breath taking! Of course only Sass is permitted to speak for god! ::)
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Sass said: Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
I may be being a bit dense cym but who do you mean? I'm presuming you don't mean Jesus.
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Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
He lived a long and happy life, surrounded by devoted disciples, and died peacefully at home. Just like many others have done in the past. Some have come into conflict with the authorities, though, and some have committed suicide along with their followers.
Any particular one you were thinking of?
ht
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Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
This guy?
Mitsuo Matayoshi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Matayoshi
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Yeah, you'd better watch out - this god really means business when he says you'll die! Adam only got to live 930 after god told him he'd die - so WATCH IT!
He did die, as God said he would.
Were you there in the Garden? Were you God? Do you know what God was thinking or Adam?
In Genesis 3 we see why Adam died that day both spiritually and physically.
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
In the earlier chapter Adam and Eve given the right to eat from the tree of life.
In Genesis 3 it was taken away. So he died that day because the one thing that would keep him alive was removed from him.
So he slowly died and he finally did.
Die, die is the Hebrew wording.
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The irony is breath taking! Of course only Sass is permitted to speak for god! ::)
God spoke for himself in his own words. Are you really so ignorant of the bible that you cannot tell the difference between the bible references and someone repeating what God said in them. :o You seem insistent on making yourself look silly.
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Sass said: Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
I may be being a bit dense cym but who do you mean? I'm presuming you don't mean Jesus.
It was there in the POST...
21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them.
22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man.
23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
24 But the word of God grew and multiplied.
The above in the post did you skip it?
And this was also in the post...
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Did you skip that too?
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It was there in the POST...
The above in the post did you skip it?
And this was also in the post...
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Did you skip that too?
That was in the long distant past so what about now?
Are you saying that everyone who claims to be speaking the word of God or proclaims to be God, will die?
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Sass, I got that anyone who speaks in God's name or the name of any other god, without Him commanding it, shall die. Also that the crowd said Herod spoke with the voice of a god, but Herod didn't say he was a god.
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God spoke for himself in his own words. Are you really so ignorant of the bible that you cannot tell the difference between the bible references and someone repeating what God said in them. :o You seem insistent on making yourself look silly.
Sass it is you who is making yourself look silly, with your daft assertions. ::) You may want to believe the Bible is the 'word' of god, but you cannot provide the slightest bit of evidence it is so. Like you the Biblical authors are imagining what their version of god is thinking, and making it out to be a complete psychopath in the process, imo.
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He did die, as God said he would.
Were you there in the Garden? Were you God? Do you know what God was thinking or Adam?
In Genesis 3 we see why Adam died that day both spiritually and physically.
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
In the earlier chapter Adam and Eve given the right to eat from the tree of life.
In Genesis 3 it was taken away. So he died that day because the one thing that would keep him alive was removed from him.
So he slowly died and he finally did.
Die, die is the Hebrew wording.
However you dress it up, God said Adam would die the same day but he didn't.
We have heard all your posturing before.
God lied. Simple as that.
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It was there in the POST...
The above in the post did you skip it?
And this was also in the post...
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Did you skip that too?
Herod didn't, though.
And there have been many, many people claiming to be gods (and/or Jesus) since then
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God spoke for himself in his own words. Are you really so ignorant of the bible that you cannot tell the difference between the bible references and someone repeating what God said in them. :o You seem insistent on making yourself look silly.
Krishna spoke for himself in his own words. Are you really so ignorant of the Bhagavad Gita that you cannot tell the difference between the Gita references and someone repeating what Krishna said in them. :o You seem insistent on making yourself look silly.
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[my emphasis]
Yes, I've always thought the moderators give the Christians an easy ride too.
In other news, God hasn't closed the forum. That means he must not exist.
Or he disagrees with Sassys take on it ;)
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Or he disagrees with Sassys take on it ;)
Would he dare do that? ::)
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Would he dare do that? ::)
I bet god feels it needs to bow down before Sass. ;D ;D ;D
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God knows very well that we all like posting here, it is beneficial to our health, we exercise our brains (and fingers), read different points of view and learn new things so he sees the R&E forum as a good thing and will not close it.