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Title: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Keith Maitland on September 10, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
TRUMP: I want to blow up the moon with big rockets.

CLINTON: Blowing up the moon is bad.

PRESS: “Trump, Clinton Spar Over Moon Plans”

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Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on September 10, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
They'll blow up planet Earth first before they decimate the moon into star dust.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 04, 2016, 08:28:03 AM
I see Trump is boasting about how he has got around the US tax laws and paying as little as possible!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Harrowby Hall on October 04, 2016, 08:41:19 AM
I see Trump is boasting about how he has got around the US tax laws and paying as little as possible!

Oh, the irony.

This will give him heroic status among his supporters, the majority of whom are so low in the food chain that they have neither the opportunity nor ability to avoid any taxes at at all.

"It's only little people who pay taxes."
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 04, 2016, 08:48:09 AM
Oh, the irony.

This will give him heroic status among his supporters, the majority of whom are so low in the food chain that they have neither the opportunity nor ability to avoid any taxes at at all.

"It's only little people who pay taxes."

It makes you sick to think people with modest means are paying taxes to help run that country, yet Trump, who is worth billions, thinks it fine to pay as little in tax as he can get away with! The US needs to tighten their tax laws to prevent that happening.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Bubbles on October 04, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
It makes you sick to think people with modest means are paying taxes to help run that country, yet Trump, who is worth billions, thinks it fine to pay as little in tax as he can get away with! The US needs to tighten their tax laws to prevent that happening.

On a discussion I'm involved in, some black people reckon they are going to have a rebellion after the election and go for apartheid again.

What with that and Donald Trump, the USA could start looking like an intolerant country, where racists ( of all colours)  set the agenda.

I hate to think what's going to happen, it sounds like people are getting even more extreme over there.

If I lived there I'd be thinking its time to buy my tin hat.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 04, 2016, 09:06:44 AM
On a discussion I'm involved in, some black people reckon they are going to have a rebellion after the election and go for apartheid again.

What with that and Donald Trump, the USA could start looking like an intolerant country, where racists ( of all colours)  set the agenda.

I hate to think what's going to happen, it sounds like people are getting even more extreme over there.

If I lived there I'd be thinking its time to buy my tin hat.

Trump is an intolerant racist, homophobic and misogynist, a US under his rule would be very ghastly indeed.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 04, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
On a discussion I'm involved in, some black people reckon they are going to have a rebellion after the election and go for apartheid again.

What with that and Donald Trump, the USA could start looking like an intolerant country, where racists ( of all colours)  set the agenda.

I hate to think what's going to happen, it sounds like people are getting even more extreme over there.

If I lived there I'd be thinking its time to buy my tin hat.

What does ' they are going to have a rebellion and go for apartheid again' mean?  It seems to imply that black people will rebel and then enforce an apartheid state - which would he odd, and makes a nonsense of the 'again'?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Bubbles on October 04, 2016, 09:31:16 AM
What does ' they are going to have a rebellion and go for apartheid again' mean?  It seems to imply that black people will rebel and then enforce an apartheid state - which would he odd, and makes a nonsense of the 'again'?

The USA used to separate blacks from whites and you had bars only some people could go in, depending on the colour of your skin.

You had separate buses too.

That's what the again means.

The rebellion bit means that black people over there are very angry ( with the stuff about police shootings) and after the election some seem to be planning to riot and fight to bring back in separation.

Is that clearer now?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States

This is just one campus, i don't think the discussion I am in is students but some seem to think they got more done with segregation.

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25748/

I think it's a horrible idea, having your life dictated to by racists of any colour doesn't appeal.

I'm just glad I live here, where you can have interracial marriage etc.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 04, 2016, 09:39:55 AM
The issue I had is that black people did not 'go for apartheid' previously. It was enforced on them. So the 'again' makes no sense.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Bubbles on October 04, 2016, 09:50:56 AM
The issue I had is that black people did not 'go for apartheid' previously. It was enforced on them. So the 'again' makes no sense.

Ok, whatever!

But some of them want to turn the clock back.

That's my point.

Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 04, 2016, 11:20:08 AM
PRESS: “Trump, Clinton Spar Over Moon Plans”


So they are going to open little handy stores on the moon?
Very enterprising, I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 04, 2016, 11:23:42 AM
PRESS: “Trump, Clinton Spar Over Moon Plans”


So they are going to open little handy stores on the moon?
Very enterprising, I'm impressed!

I wonder what the currency is on the moon?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 04, 2016, 12:14:42 PM
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mooncoin/

http://currencies.wikia.com/wiki/Lunar_Republic_25_crater_coin

They could export some rare cheese too.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 04, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
Saturday Night Live's take on the debate


https://m.youtube.com/?gl=GB&hl=en-GB#/watch?v=-nQGBZQrtT0
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Hope on October 04, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
I see Trump is boasting about how he has got around the US tax laws and paying as little as possible!
Not to mention UK tax laws, as well!!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 04, 2016, 06:25:55 PM
In fairness, even if he does get around the tax laws, he'll still be paying an enormous amount of money in tax.   He shouldn't crow about how he manages to evade paying more, it gets peoples' backs up.  Most people in his position wouldn't know how it's done anyway, the accountants are the ones who work on that.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on October 04, 2016, 07:28:14 PM
I wonder what the currency is on the moon?
Mooney!  :D
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 08, 2016, 08:31:29 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37594918

What a wonderful President Trump would make, NOT!!!!!!!!!!! The US has had some bad ones in their time, but he would be in a league all of his own!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: L.A. on October 08, 2016, 08:46:25 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37594918

What a wonderful President Trump would make, NOT!!!!!!!!!!! The US has had some bad ones in their time, but he would be in a league all of his own!
Just when you think it couldn't possibly get any worse, Trump amazes with another gem. And the scary thing is that it doesn't seem to damage his ratings.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 08, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
Just when you think it couldn't possibly get any worse, Trump amazes with another gem. And the scary thing is that it doesn't seem to damage his ratings.

It does make you wonder how daft and gullible some of the US citizens are?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: jeremyp on October 08, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
Just when you think it couldn't possibly get any worse, Trump amazes with another gem. And the scary thing is that it doesn't seem to damage his ratings.
Actually it does.

FiveThirtyEight's forecast has Hillary on an 81% chance of winning now. Just before the debate, the same figure was 55%.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 08, 2016, 12:12:31 PM
Actually it does.

FiveThirtyEight's forecast has Hillary on an 81% chance of winning now. Just before the debate, the same figure was 55%.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

I hope that is correct.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: SusanDoris on October 08, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
I hope that is correct.

Me too, Floo. thanks to JeremyP. I also heard some idiot Republican on Today this morning justifying why he was still going to vote for trump. Yuk!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 08, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
If Trump became president maybe he would bring in a law allowing guys as a right to have concubines for their delectation and delight!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 08, 2016, 02:03:19 PM
Maybe he wouldn"t  :o
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: ekim on October 08, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
It does make you wonder how daft and gullible some of the US citizens are?

Here's one that isn't ... http://tinyurl.com/hbmklma
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: L.A. on October 08, 2016, 03:53:46 PM
Actually it does.

FiveThirtyEight's forecast has Hillary on an 81% chance of winning now. Just before the debate, the same figure was 55%.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

We can but hope.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 08, 2016, 04:55:42 PM
Here's one that isn't ... http://tinyurl.com/hbmklma

Good for him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Anchorman on October 08, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
Can I apologise on behalf of reasonable Christians for this plonker....... http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/phil-robertson-hillary-clinton-lies-bec ause-satan-controls-the-democratic-party/
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 08, 2016, 05:53:35 PM
Unless there is more of this article than I could access, I read what he said about Hilary Clinton and her Satanic influences manifesting themselves in lies but there was nothing at all about Trump.  I had expected him to do the same number on Mr Trump.  So, apart from him appearing to be unbalanced, the guy's speech is in need of some balance.  Plus, he obviously supports Trump.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Harrowby Hall on October 08, 2016, 06:26:22 PM
I suspect that you may have missed the point - which I perceive to be that right wing (in American terms) is the natural home of extreme "religious" views. Since Trump is clearly a right-wing candidate,  the religious nut will not be attacking him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Brownie on October 08, 2016, 06:51:15 PM
Yes but I couldn't help living in hope, HH.  Looking at the picture of the man, there is something (to me at any rate) rather 'sixties' about him - not Charles Manson type of 'sixties' but an ageing hippy type.   Add to that the bizarre name of his party, he could have been quite different.

So, when I started reading the speech I thought he was a bit bonkers but didn't expect him to be pro-Trump.

I tend to over-analyse things and miss the obvious.  Well never mind.
C U later. x
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 09, 2016, 08:29:39 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37599111

It looks as if Senior Republicans are very fed up with Trump.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: jeremyp on October 09, 2016, 11:07:45 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37599111

It looks as if Senior Republicans are very fed up with Trump.

Ha. I like this (FTA): "Mr Trump himself stressed that there was "zero chance I'll quit", adding that he was getting "unbelievable" support."

I can't believe he has got any support either.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 09, 2016, 11:16:21 AM
Ha. I like this (FTA): "Mr Trump himself stressed that there was "zero chance I'll quit", adding that he was getting "unbelievable" support."

I can't believe he has got any support either.

He has the support of Americans who agree with his racist, sexist and homophobic views. I suspect he would like to bring back the colour bar, make it illegal to be gay and have women dancing attendance on men!

And there is more!

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uselection/donald-trump-misogyny-row-intensifies-as-more-lewd-tapes-emerge/ar-BBxbxTn?ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 10, 2016, 09:03:02 AM
It sounds as if last night's 'debate' between Clinton and Trump was as bad as an episode of the Jeremy Kyle show, if not worse!
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: wigginhall on October 10, 2016, 03:20:38 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/1c0aos.jpg

NSFW
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: L.A. on October 11, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
The man is appalling, but what does all this say about the system that got him there? . . . and could still conceivably get him in the Whitehouse?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Khatru on October 11, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
How about this?

At the first debate on September 26 Trump said that Hillary Clinton lacked the stamina to be President.

Then on October 9, he said "She doesn’t quit, she doesn’t give up. I respect that. I tell it like it is. She’s a fighter. I disagree with much of what she’s fighting for. I do disagree with her judgement in many cases. But she does fight hard, and she doesn’t quit, and she doesn’t give up, and I consider that to be a very good trait.”

Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: floo on October 13, 2016, 12:09:52 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-women-new-sexual-harassment-stories

Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on October 13, 2016, 07:35:24 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-women-new-sexual-harassment-stories
They claim it is fabricated.

However, Trump's claim that if Hillary gets to be president she'll trash America is so stupid and desperate the guy is finished. But as John Gray said this isn't about Trump but about the disaffected voters in future elections at all levels.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Anchorman on October 13, 2016, 08:08:09 PM
In the Donald's brave new world, Hilary's bound for the nick. Now, apparently, so are her lawyers..... http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/donald-trump-says-hell-imprison-hillary-clintons-lawyers-too If I were her office cleaners, I'd get an arrow embroidered suit on hire.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Sriram on October 31, 2016, 06:32:36 AM

Trump was nearly OUT some time back. Now Hillary seems to be having problems with the FBI again.  Trump is now just one point behind Clinton, I understand.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on October 31, 2016, 04:36:13 PM
Trump was nearly OUT some time back. Now Hillary seems to be having problems with the FBI again.  Trump is now just one point behind Clinton, I understand.

What do you think?
I think the whole thing is a farce; you couldn't make it up. Even the FBI's actions here seem totally out of character as if they (Comey) have planned this to get at Hilary....?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Hope on October 31, 2016, 06:47:08 PM
I think the whole thing is a farce; you couldn't make it up. Even the FBI's actions here seem totally out of character as if they (Comey) have planned this to get at Hilary....?
Could it be that the publicising of the Congressman's sexting has been timed to ensure that something ran into the juggernaut that is HC's election campaign this close to polling day?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on November 01, 2016, 07:38:04 PM
Could it be that the publicising of the Congressman's sexting has been timed to ensure that something ran into the juggernaut that is HC's election campaign this close to polling day?
That's what it looks like. I heard something of this on the RT programme Going Underground a few months back but when the FBI closed the email investigation I just assumed the guy got it wrong. This, however, fits in exactly to what he/she said. Still, it is very strange and puzzling.
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: T8-eh-T8 on November 01, 2016, 08:02:53 PM
I am reluctant to comment on this thread in case it influences the outcome.

That would be  poor electoral process on my part.

What we all need is the Icelandic Pirate Party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37813564 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37813564)
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Hope on November 01, 2016, 08:08:51 PM
That's what it looks like. I heard something of this on the RT programme Going Underground a few months back but when the FBI closed the email investigation I just assumed the guy got it wrong. This, however, fits in exactly to what he/she said. Still, it is very strange and puzzling.
Could the timings of the accusations against Trump have  been designed to ensure that something ran into his campaign?
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on November 01, 2016, 08:24:04 PM
I am reluctant to comment on this thread in case it influences the outcome.

That would be  poor electoral process on my part.

What we all need is the Icelandic Pirate Party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37813564 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37813564)
I think a Pirate party was tried in a European country somewhere but fell apart because they couldn't agree on policy issues. There is always a need for leadership and some form of hierarchy. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump + Hillary Clinton + The Press
Post by: Jack Knave on November 01, 2016, 08:28:15 PM
Could the timings of the accusations against Trump have  been designed to ensure that something ran into his campaign?
These people always store up this dirt to leash it just at the right time for maximum effect. So I'm not sure what you are trying to pry out here, this is just common sense.