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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Rhiannon on January 23, 2017, 06:01:27 PM

Title: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Rhiannon on January 23, 2017, 06:01:27 PM: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-decriminalise-domestic-violence-vladimir-putin-ultra-conservative-family-laws-a7541371.html

And largely at the behest of the Russian Orthodox Church, apparently.

The law includes child victims too, by the way. Not just gobby women who don't know their place.
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Shaker on January 23, 2017, 06:10:27 PM: Russia is a hellhole basket case excuse of a nation where bigotry and general backwardness are absolutely rife. Who is surprised by this?
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: floo on January 23, 2017, 06:12:02 PM: Trump will probably want to do the same in America! :o
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Brownie on January 23, 2017, 06:23:34 PM: Quote from: Shaker on January 23, 2017, 06:10:27 PM
Russia is a hellhole basket case excuse of a nation where bigotry and general backwardness are absolutely rife. Who is surprised by this?

I'd be surprised if anyone was surprised.
Appalling.
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Aruntraveller on January 25, 2017, 02:32:19 PM: I'm sure one of our number will be along to defend the indefensible soon enough.
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 31, 2017, 09:28:13 AM: Quote from: Rose on January 31, 2017, 09:19:16 AM
The attitude of the Russian Orthodox Church is bizarre imo

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Those measures were contested bitterly by the Russian Orthodox Church and by right-wing politicians, with senator Yelena Mizulina stating that "a man beating his wife is less offensive than when a woman humiliates a man.” "
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I know the church was suppressed in the old Soviet Union, maybe those old style communists got at least one thing right.

Is it just me, or does that comment sound winey?

Wonder which woman humiliated that senator in his childhood?

Took away his dummy perhaps.

Perhaps the Russians need to suppress it again🙄

Just to point out Mizulina is a she, not a he
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Bubbles on January 31, 2017, 09:36:51 AM: Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 31, 2017, 09:28:13 AM
Just to point out Mizulina is a she, not a he

I removed my post because I could see I'd misread the article
There is a bit more about it here

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21715726-it-fits-traditional-values-lawmakers-say-why-russia-about-decriminalise-wife-beating

The fact the senator is a woman makes it even worse.

My link says about it being traditional and the view that if he beats you it means he loves you.

I'm glad I never married a Russian.

Some traditions are best forgotten.
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Bubbles on January 31, 2017, 09:45:36 AM: I thought I'd misread the Russian Orthodox Church position on it, but perhaps not.

"The legislation has the active support of the Russian Orthodox Church, which said in a 2016 statement that physical punishment is a Russian tradition to be protected as "an essential right given to parents by God."

From here

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2017/01/27/Russian-parliament-acts-to-weaken-domestic-violence-law/2571485533800/

Unfortunately I don't think the Russians value human life the way other countries do, I thought that with Chernobyl.
Title: Re: Russia to decriminalise domestic violence
Post by: Shaker on January 31, 2017, 09:52:40 AM: While the civilised world incrementally progresses in making life better for its people, Mother Russia keeps on marching boldly into the past, trailing clouds of incense as she goes.