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Title: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Bubbles on June 21, 2017, 09:56:12 PM

Hmmm! Now I know what a Scotsman wears under his kilt 😁

https://www.facebook.com/bbcthree/videos/1187484684695286/
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: floo on June 22, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
My son-in-law wears his kilt most of the time, I haven't been tempted to peep underneath it. ;D
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 08:47:30 AM
My son-in-law wears his kilt most of the time, I haven't been tempted to peep underneath it. ;D


Most of the time?
Bloomin uncomfortable - and heavy - in this heat, I'd think.
I'll probably put my kilt (and accessories) on for Kirk on Sunday (We usually have hymns to Scots tunes to commemorate Bannockburn day) - but if it's as hot as it was yesterday; forget it.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Rhiannon on June 22, 2017, 09:01:45 AM
And here's what happened next. Sadly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39442881
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: floo on June 22, 2017, 09:27:20 AM

Most of the time?
Bloomin uncomfortable - and heavy - in this heat, I'd think.
I'll probably put my kilt (and accessories) on for Kirk on Sunday (We usually have hymns to Scots tunes to commemorate Bannockburn day) - but if it's as hot as it was yesterday; forget it.

My son-in-law much prefers a kilt to wearing trousers. He was wearing his kilt on Sunday when the whole family met up at the Ironbridge Victorian Village as part of my husband's 70th birthday celebrations. It was boiling hot, but he seemed comfortable enough in it.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
My son-in-law much prefers a kilt to wearing trousers. He was wearing his kilt on Sunday when the whole family met up at the Ironbridge Victorian Village as part of my husband's 70th birthday celebrations. It was boiling hot, but he seemed comfortable enough in it.


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He must be made of stronger stuff than I am!
Either that or he has one of those modern lightweight ones;
'cos my kilt weighs a ton - well around eight pounds, as it's wool. Add on the leather belt, silver buckles, kilt pin, sporran, not to mention the wollen hose and nicky tams, and the whole thing's a heck of a burden - especially as I walk to church - about a mile from my house.
Of course, when it's wet, the kilt can REALLY be heavy.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
If he's wearing it casually then I would guess he drops the accoutrements. I attended a wedding a couple of years ago in temps similar to what the warmer areas have had in the last few days, and was glad to wearing one of the lighter kilts
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Bubbles on June 22, 2017, 09:39:13 AM
And here's what happened next. Sadly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39442881

Some people are jealous, of other people's successes, bodies etc.

I didn't know about that when I posted it 😟

It is sad.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 22, 2017, 09:39:59 AM
And here's what happened next. Sadly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39442881

Yes, that was disgusting. Haven't seen an update on any outcome. Anyway here's a link to his website.

http://www.finlay-wilson.com
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: floo on June 22, 2017, 10:38:25 AM

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He must be made of stronger stuff than I am!
Either that or he has one of those modern lightweight ones;
'cos my kilt weighs a ton - well around eight pounds, as it's wool. Add on the leather belt, silver buckles, kilt pin, sporran, not to mention the wollen hose and nicky tams, and the whole thing's a heck of a burden - especially as I walk to church - about a mile from my house.
Of course, when it's wet, the kilt can REALLY be heavy.

His kilt looks heavy enough to me, but he only wears the full regalia with it on special occasions.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 22, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Nothing wrong with kilts it's the tortured cat under the arm the Scots insist on carrying.

ippy
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
Nothing wrong with kilts it's the tortured cat under the arm the Scots insist on carrying.

ippy


Philistine.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 22, 2017, 06:02:08 PM

Philistine.
As with a good deal else I'm with the ipmeister on this one - Caledonophobe he may have been (which I don't support or agree with in any way whatever) but Dr Johnson had the right of it when he defined a gentleman as someone who knows how to play the bagpipes but doesn't  :)
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 06:20:28 PM
As with a good deal else I'm with the ipmeister on this one - Caledonophobe he may have been (which I don't support or agree with in any way whatever) but Dr Johnson had the right of it when he defined a gentleman as someone who knows how to play the bagpipes but doesn't  :)
Lord Auchinleck (Boswell the sycophant's dad) rightly despised Johnson. The Boswell mausoleum is about fifty feet from my parish Kirk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crTYoInQJv4
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
.....and speaking of Lord Auchinleck, who was amember of the Court of Session and an advocate of the Scots language - as well as a composer of a wheen of tunes, here's one of them - 'Jenny dang the weaver'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roJgBavr9_A
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 22, 2017, 06:31:56 PM

Philistine.

I noticed that Scotsman Williams has bowed out of Queens.

ippy
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Gordon on June 22, 2017, 06:34:13 PM
I'll probably be tried for treason for this, or transported to somewhere unpleasant, but this Scotsman detests the sound of bagpipes on the basis that, to my ears, they make an unmusical racket.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 22, 2017, 06:41:51 PM
I'll probably be tried for treason for this, or transported to somewhere unpleasant, but this Scotsman detests the sound of bagpipes on the basis that, to my ears, they make an unmusical racket.
... demonstrating that it's an earhole thing, not a national thing.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 22, 2017, 07:44:10 PM
... demonstrating that it's an earhole thing, not a national thing.

I thought they were an Irish invention or something like that and I think the Bretons in Northern France have something like it too?

ippy
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Sebastian Toe on June 22, 2017, 09:47:06 PM


Of course, when it's wet, the kilt can REALLY be heavy.
Best to not drink too many pints then!
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 10:33:38 PM
I thought they were an Irish invention or something like that and I think the Bretons in Northern France have something like it too?

ippy


Ancient Greeks used them - followed by the Romans, Italians, Bretons, Hungarians, Irish, Scots.....
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 22, 2017, 10:34:34 PM
Best to not drink too many pints then!


Why d'you think I prefer a dram?
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 23, 2017, 08:15:13 AM

Ancient Greeks used them - followed by the Romans, Italians, Bretons, Hungarians, Irish, Scots.....

It looks as though they all had the sense to rid themselves of them, how come the Scots insist on hanging on to the blasted things?

ippy
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 23, 2017, 08:22:04 AM
It looks as though they all had the sense to rid themselves of them, how come the Scots insist on hanging on to the blasted things? ippy
Er.... The pipes in various forms, are flourishing in several parts of Italy, Hungary, Galicia in Spain, Breton in France, the Basque country - oh, and Northumbria, of course, as well as Ireland, Scotland, Canada....... Wee bit out of touch there, Ippy! Try coming to Glasgow during the Celtic Connections festival in January - you'll see there's a whole lot more to piping than a massed band (which is a relatively recent invention anyway) Here's a Wiki link showing the various instruments and their use today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bagpipes
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 23, 2017, 09:17:24 AM
Er.... The pipes in various forms, are flourishing in several parts of Italy, Hungary, Galicia in Spain, Breton in France, the Basque country - oh, and Northumbria, of course, as well as Ireland, Scotland, Canada....... Wee bit out of touch there, Ippy! Try coming to Glasgow during the Celtic Connections festival in January - you'll see there's a whole lot more to piping than a massed band (which is a relatively recent invention anyway) Here's a Wiki link showing the various instruments and their use today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bagpipes

AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

ippy
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: floo on June 23, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
The bagpipes do make a screeching sound, which isn't to my taste.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 23, 2017, 09:39:20 AM
I was just thinking about my encounters with the Scots, it's usually been fun with good friends, plenty of banter and coming away laughing at how every English put down of the Scots amusingly well countered with clever put downs of the English and then after a really friendly encounter like that, the Scot'll go that bit to far and throw in bagpipes, now that's uncalled for and really nasty. 

ippy

P S Oh yes my maternal grandfather was a full blooded Scot.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 23, 2017, 02:36:22 PM
The bagpipes do make a screeching sound, which isn't to my taste.


Which type?
'cos there are many which do not.
I assume you know this.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 02:39:10 PM

Which type?
'cos there are many which do not.
I assume you know this.
Given Floo finds nearly all music unpleasant, she may well not hear the same way you do.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: floo on June 23, 2017, 04:02:29 PM
Given Floo finds nearly all music unpleasant, she may well not hear the same way you do.

True, I don't know why music doesn't do it for me, seeing I come from a musical family.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Anchorman on June 23, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
You won't like this, Floo - so I don't know why I'm posting it. Maybe 'cos in the dim and distant past I used to have a go on the small pipes. Here's a virtuoso - Mike Katz, world renowned soloist and player with the iconic 'Battlefield band' showing the range of the Scottish Small pipes - a bit like the Northumbrian pipes, if you're interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3W3klHIYQ
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 04:23:44 PM
True, I don't know why music doesn't do it for me, seeing I come from a musical family.
Doesn't make you a bad person, though I know some who would think it does. Aesthetic appreciation is not morality.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 23, 2017, 05:47:44 PM
Doesn't make you a bad person, though I know some who would think it does. Aesthetic appreciation is not morality.
I wouldn't invoke morality, but to me, someone for whom music is like oxygen, I think of people who say they don't like music in a slightly pitying way, a bit like somebody who's colourblind - functional but incomplete because they have a lack which means they're missing out on the full spectrum of human experience. Whatever style of music you're into - and I like just about all of them in differing degrees - anybody who likes any kind of music in a serious as opposed to shallow and superficial way will know (although they may struggle to put it into words) just how much it enriches your inner, emotional life - even what some might call spiritual life: other than hardline Islamism there's no religious tradition without its music.

You can go through life and exist fairly contentedly I should think in what I would call a fairly mediocre, humdrum, so-so way without ever having been in love, for example, but I would say that if you're thereby spared some of life's worst suffering, you also miss out on potentially its greatest joys. Likewise, to me, though further down the emotional scale, with music.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 05:51:44 PM
I wouldn't invoke morality, but to me, someone for whom music is like oxygen, I think of people who say they don't like music in a slightly pitying way, a bit like somebody who's colourblind - functional but incomplete because they have a lack which means they're missing out on the full spectrum of human experience. Whatever style of music you're into - and I like just about all of them in differing degrees - anybody who likes any kind of music in a serious as opposed to shallow and superficial way will know (although they may struggle to put it into words) just how much it enriches your inner, emotional life - even what some might call spiritual life. Other than hardline Islamism there's no religious tradition without its music.

You can go through life and exist fairly contentedly I should think in what I would call a fairly mediocre, humdrum, so-so way without ever having been in love, for example, but I would say that if you're thereby spared some of life's worst suffering, you also miss out on potentially its greatest joys. Likewise, to me, though further down the emotional scale, with music.

Be careful you don't pull a muscle reaching round that far to pat yourself on your back.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 23, 2017, 05:53:54 PM
Be careful you don't pull a muscle reaching round that far to pat yourself on your back.
No, it's no more self-congratulation than it is self-congratulation for not being colourblind or not having any allergies. It's simply the way it is.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 06:13:22 PM
No, it's no more self-congratulation than it is self-congratulation for not being colourblind or not having any allergies. It's simply the way it is.
I think describing someone who is colorblind as going through life in a fairly humdrum mediocre way is jaw droopingly arrogant.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 23, 2017, 06:16:14 PM
I think describing someone who is colorblind as going through life in a fairly humdrum mediocre way is jaw droopingly arrogant.
That's not actually what I wrote is it?

You're all over somebody else like flies on shit if you deem them to have misrepresented an argument, yet here you are doing the very same.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 06:20:14 PM
That's not actually what I wrote is it?

You're all over somebody else like flies on shit if you deem them to have misrepresented an argument, yet here you are doing the very same.
in what way is a misrepresentation? If you think it is, wouldn't itbetter to explain why than try a tu quoque?
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Shaker on June 23, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
No, I'm really not prepared to get into yet another epic round of monumental pedantry from some dreary little Norman No Mates wanker who could start an argument and keep it going in an empty room. What I wrote I wrote. If you've any problem with it, take it up with yourself - I'm sure yourself will be incredibly interested. I'm not.
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 23, 2017, 06:37:15 PM
No, I'm really not prepared to get into yet another epic round of monumental pedantry from some dreary little Norman No Mates wanker who could start an argument and keep it going in an empty room. What I wrote I wrote. If you've any problem with it, take it up with yourself - I'm sure yourself will be incredibly interested. I'm not.
love you too,darling, xx
Title: Re: Yoga in kilts
Post by: ippy on June 24, 2017, 12:41:35 PM

Which type?
'cos there are many which do not.
I assume you know this.

There's no excuse good enough for bagpipes Anchor.

ippy