Religion and Ethics Forum
Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on July 13, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
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Not a tittle changed
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+12%3A1-5&version=NIV
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Reads like primitive pish to me.
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Bless. You have to remember that the writers were very, very scared of the power of childbirth.
Nobody thinks like that now, obviously. :-X
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Obviously. Except for the supporters of the govt.
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Obviously. Except for the supporters of the govt.
Of course - Im assuming DUP, and I'm going to NI next week!
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It is ghastly how that book has been used to vilify women over the centuries and try to make them subservient to the male of the species! Even in the 21st centuries there are still extremists who think woman should kowtow to their menfolk! >:(
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The Bible ?!?!!?
Have none of you ever looked at - read - a Quran. ?!!?!?!? Horrendous is NOT the word !!!!
Misogynistic - homophobic - hatred of ALL non-Islamic things & people ?!!!?
If you ever do then you'll have NO problems understanding brain-washed Muslims 'dying for the cause' !!! IE suicide excursions !!!
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Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?
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When you have a religion where God is MALE....... ;) ;)
Hinduism, with its Gods & Goddesses seems to enjoy stories of Goddesses kicking certain parts of over-zealous Gods as being very amusing !!!
Knowing women are better at doing certain things better than males helps too.
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When you have a religion where God is MALE....... ;) ;)
Hinduism, with its Gods & Goddesses seems to enjoy stories of Goddesses kicking certain parts of over-zealous Gods as being very amusing !!!
Knowing women are better at doing certain things better than males helps too.
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_women.asp
According to this link women are expected to be subservient to the male in Hinduism.
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Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?
Paganism is pretty good in this regard.
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You might be interested in this, Floo. Anglo-Saxon women (not long converted from paganism) enjoyed more rights than others did right up to the Victorian age.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Anglo-Saxon_society
In Celtic society there is evidence that men and women held equal rank, something that got taken from their pagan societies and into their Christianity. They also had mixed gender monastic houses where couples could raise families. This was only eradicated after the Synod of Whitby when it was agreed that the British church would obey Rome and take on its customs.
This piece by Peter Beresford Ellis (aka Peter Tremayne) is quite good.
http://www.sisterfidelma.com/fidelma.html
There's much about our pagan past that we don't know, but it is certainly true that neopaganism treats men and women as completely equal, although there are individual movements for both women and men should people wish to explore them. Part of the reasoning for this is that some need a safe space in which to express themselves and find healing.
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Just wanted to put this out, Orthodox Jewish women do not think it means women are 'evil': seems 'odd' to us of course (men are also considered ritually unclean sometimes and have mikvah)-
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/1541/jewish/The-Mikvah.htm
See you in couple of weeks, off on holiday (frantically packindg).
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Paganism is pretty good in this regard.
Neo-paganism, maybe. I doubt that the real thing, millennia ago, was.
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Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?
Paganism
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Paganism
Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!
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Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!
From what we know of Celtic and Saxon paganism they certainly seemed to have had a better crack at equality than their Romanised Christian counterparts.
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Neo-paganism, maybe. I doubt that the real thing, millennia ago, was.
Paganism wasn't a thing in ancient times. It was a catch all term for "religions that are not Christianity". The paganisms of Pagan Rome were probably very different from the paganisms in pre-Roman Britain.
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It's not really a thing now. Neopaganism/paganism is just an umbrella term that covers everything from Wicca to Asatru to Druidry to hedgewitchery to Shamanism to whatever it is that I do and a whole load of other stuff besides.
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Do you read earlier posts before posting? See immediately above yours!
Yes, I do read them - however I am not living in a pre-Christian world and I do not follow a pre-Christian Pagan path and on the path I do follow, a Coven-based path (I am also a hedge-witch when working outside the Coven), the bloke in charge is the High Priestess and her word is law and is obeyed without question or hesitation. All other women in a coven are equals in all respects to the males.
Have you never heard of Boudicca?
A question for you Stevey-boy, just what do you know about paganism and did you learn it from the same bloke who taught Sassy?
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BLOKE in charge ???
You're not one of those who calls women, either alone or with men, a GUY, are you ???
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BLOKE in charge ???
You're not one of those who calls women, either alone or with men, a GUY, are you ???
No, I was being sarcy!
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MMM ??????
Saucy or sarky ?!!!? LOL
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Is there any religion which has treated women as equal to men?
Zoroastrianism
Society of Friends
May not have always quite worked out in practice, they lived & worked in wider misogynistic societies but the ethos is there.
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MMM ??????
Saucy or sarky ?!!!? LOL
Whichever, undoubtedly secksy ;)
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I seem to have found this so-called 'fear of women' in what we think of as having a very MALE god, as in Islam & the Judaic faiths. They seem scared to death of the Feminine !!
I haven't found it in religions such as Hinduism that have goddesses. In fact, it's so very often the goddesses that show the gods a thing or two !!!
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I seem to have found this so-called 'fear of women' in what we think of as having a very MALE god, as in Islam & the Judaic faiths. They seem scared to death of the Feminine !!
I haven't found it in religions such as Hinduism that have goddesses. In fact, it's so very often the goddesses that show the gods a thing or two !!!
According to my R E teacher at my grammar school back in 1958 or thereabouts the veneration of the Virgin in the Catholic Church was partly due to those nasty heathen pagans rejected the idea of the original mantra of the "male only" parenthood of Christ knowing, as the undoubtedly did, that to make a baby required bot male and female and could not understand how the Creator of All Things did not know this.
This is, of course, why pagans and the adherents of other pre-Christian religions tended to have both gods and godesses.