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Title: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 26, 2017, 08:54:29 PM

Shocking if this comes back


https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/study-us-is-slipping-toward-measles-being-endemic-once-again/
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Owlswing on July 26, 2017, 10:44:12 PM
Shocking if this comes back


https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/study-us-is-slipping-toward-measles-being-endemic-once-again/

Well done the Anti-vaxxers of the goood old U S of A.

What, statistically, are the chances of it being brought over here by a returning tourist? I would hope that our (the U K's) vaccination rate would prevent the 'worst case scenario'.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 26, 2017, 10:51:58 PM
Well done the Anti-vaxxers of the goood old U S of A.

What, statistically, are the chances of it being brought over here by a returning tourist? I would hope that our (the U K's) vaccination rate would prevent the 'worst case scenario'.

As long as herd immunity is kept up, none. The issue is when herd immunity is lost, which the problem in the article then issues arise.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: jeremyp on July 27, 2017, 01:54:58 AM
Well done the Anti-vaxxers of the goood old U S of A.
Let us not forget that they took their inspiration from British fraudster and ex doctor Andrew Wakefield.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 27, 2017, 02:09:50 AM
Indeed stupidity and corruption know no bpunds
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Owlswing on July 27, 2017, 05:22:54 AM

Let us not forget that they took their inspiration from British fraudster and ex doctor Andrew Wakefield.


The article is about the U S - I have not seen any comparable articles relating to the U K.

Have we got measles outbreaks causing problems over here?

The nationality of the medical wanker is irrelevant; it is the rank stupidity of the American's ability to take any subject, pro-life, gun-law, anti-vax, to its most illogical and stupid and, in this case, dangerous, conclusion.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 27, 2017, 05:34:08 PM

Incredible that this goes on.

http://www.skepticalob.com/2017/07/autism-bleach-and-pre-rational-beliefs-about-illness.html
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Owlswing on July 27, 2017, 06:54:57 PM
Incredible that this goes on.

http://www.skepticalob.com/2017/07/autism-bleach-and-pre-rational-beliefs-about-illness.html


Is there the remotest posibility that this is a hoax? NO, I didn't think there was.

Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: floo on July 28, 2017, 12:11:37 PM
Incredible that this goes on.

http://www.skepticalob.com/2017/07/autism-bleach-and-pre-rational-beliefs-about-illness.html

Surely this can't be for real, can it? :o
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 28, 2017, 12:14:46 PM
Surely this can't be for real, can it? :o
Unfortunately it's very real.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: floo on July 28, 2017, 12:20:10 PM
Unfortunately it's very real.

Poor child, that is so shocking! :o One can only suppose the parents were last in the queue when intelligence was handed out, otherwise they would have never gone along with that abuse.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 28, 2017, 12:27:14 PM
Poor child, that is so shocking! :o One can only suppose the parents were last in the queue when intelligence was handed out, otherwise they would have never gone along with that abuse.
There are lots of supposedly intelligent people out there doing stuff like this. It's deyperation and fear in many cases.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Rhiannon on July 28, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
There are lots of supposedly intelligent people out there doing stuff like this. It's deyperation and fear in many cases.

Yes, those who believe in 'alternative' solutions are often well educated and have the money to pay for this stuff.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 28, 2017, 12:43:35 PM
There's an easy trope that vaccination denial is the left's climate change. It's a bit more complex but there is an amount of truth in that. The general feeling that capitalism is endemically corrupt and corrupting means that for a certain way of thinking all you need to do is stick 'Big' in front of something to make it bad.  There is a lot of sensible skepticism about what companies do but that same skepticism needs to be applied equally to people pushing 'alternatives' and that includes recognising that most of these 'alternatives' are vastly less regulated.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: SusanDoris on July 28, 2017, 04:56:20 PM
I had not looked at this topic before ... how really terrible that such things are done.
Title: Re: The return of measles
Post by: Robbie on July 30, 2017, 12:37:56 AM
Absolutely scandalous!