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Title: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 26, 2017, 08:37:58 AM
A friend was telling me about a TV programme showing a house built in a marsh. It has, apparently, pink legs and this made it easy to google! We were talking about where their water came from and where waste water and sewage went. I clicked on several links but they were all photos. Can anyone help with finding a text description of the details, please?
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Harrowby Hall on November 26, 2017, 09:05:35 AM
Is this it?

https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards/riba-regional-awards/riba-east-award-winners/2017/redshank

Try looking through the archive for Channel 4's Grand Designs.    That's where I found it. I recall seeing the programme concerned but I cannot recall any discussion about waste etc.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Nearly Sane on November 26, 2017, 09:22:40 AM
According to this, the supplies are there but concealed.

https://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/home-garden/interiors/design-news/house-of-the-year-contender-redshank-hovers-over-essex-marshland-a114951.html#gallery
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 26, 2017, 10:37:00 AM
The Essex marshes are in many places genuinely wild. Stunning house.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 26, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
Many thanks for the replies. I will go to links in a minute and post again.

Just got back in from walking. Gorgeous day of course,, but the very low sun is tricky!

Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 26, 2017, 10:46:15 AM
The Essex marshes are in many places genuinely wild. Stunning house.
stunning in its ridiculousness . The award was from the Kings New Clothes Society btw  ;)
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 26, 2017, 10:56:43 AM
stunning in its ridiculousness . The award was from the Kings New Clothes Society btw  ;)

Ah, never mind. Is Poundbury more you?
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: floo on November 26, 2017, 11:05:01 AM
I would be seriously depressed living anywhere like that, YUCK!
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 26, 2017, 11:22:02 AM
Ah, never mind. Is Poundbury more you?
actually I don't live in a house at all but Poundbury looks rather nicer than the council estate I grew up in .

However as long as I've got you to talk to Rhi, I don't care where I live  ;D
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Enki on November 26, 2017, 11:37:16 AM
Is this it?

https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards/riba-regional-awards/riba-east-award-winners/2017/redshank

Try looking through the archive for Channel 4's Grand Designs.    That's where I found it. I recall seeing the programme concerned but I cannot recall any discussion about waste etc.

Perhaps the judges got bogged down in making a decision on this. ;)

It looks to me like any one of a number of bird watching hides I've visited.(e.g. the Saltholme RSPB birdwatching hide in the North East of England).
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 26, 2017, 11:41:58 AM
Perhaps the judges got bogged down in making a decision on this. ;)

It looks to me like any one of a number of bird watching hides I've visited.(e.g. the Saltholme RSPB birdwatching hide in the North East of England).
spot on enki  :D
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 26, 2017, 11:50:36 AM
Is this it?

https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards/riba-regional-awards/riba-east-award-winners/2017/redshank

Try looking through the archive for Channel 4's Grand Designs.    That's where I found it. I recall seeing the programme concerned but I cannot recall any discussion about waste etc.
Thank you  for your help. The services are all concealed it says. It doesn't  seem to say how far the various pipes have to go to to connect with the mains, but I expect that   would havbe been well taken care of, as it must have cost so much anyway!
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Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 26, 2017, 11:56:09 AM
According to this, the supplies are there but concealed.

https://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/home-garden/interiors/design-news/house-of-the-year-contender-redshank-hovers-over-essex-marshland-a114951.html#gallery
thank you for the link.  I see it says it is within walking distance of the owners' home .. I think they'd need a boat too though!
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 26, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
Perhaps the judges got bogged down in making a decision on this. ;)

It looks to me like any one of a number of bird watching hides I've visited.(e.g. the Saltholme RSPB birdwatching hide in the North East of England).

I think in a way it is meant to. But it also functions as a house so it has all services connected. And the materials used in its construction are designed to weather and fade into the landscape. I love it. I would love to stay there and watch the sun rise and set.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 26, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
Love this...

https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards/riba-regional-awards/riba-south-west-award-winners/2017/the-quest

and this

https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards/riba-regional-awards/riba-south-award-winners/2017/oxfordshire-residence
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Enki on November 26, 2017, 12:16:03 PM
I think in a way it is meant to. But it also functions as a house so it has all services connected. And the materials used in its construction are designed to weather and fade into the landscape. I love it. I would love to stay there and watch the sun rise and set.

Yes, I agree. The Saltholme complex has a cafe, heated hide, ringing area and lecture area. It is built jutting out into a reedbed complex. This seems to be the way things are going. The new visitor's centre at Spurn(which is being built at the moment) is similar.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: wigginhall on November 26, 2017, 02:39:52 PM
A bit like Welney as well, which has a heated hide which is massive, and more like a living room.   The RIBA house would give me nightmares.    Also the observatory at WWT in London, which is a big heated hide with massive windows, spectacular, and you can actually get married there.   
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: jeremyp on November 26, 2017, 03:41:32 PM
thank you for the link.  I see it says it is within walking distance of the owners' home .. I think they'd need a boat too though!
From NS's link, it looks like it really isn't very far from the nearest conventional house (i.e. just a few metres). So you'd just extend the utilities a bit and run them up the inside of the legs.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 26, 2017, 05:37:35 PM
From NS's link, it looks like it really isn't very far from the nearest conventional house (i.e. just a few metres). So you'd just extend the utilities a bit and run them up the inside of the legs.
Ah, right. It looks quite isolated - but that is probably the way it is photographed,  and I did not try to enlarge the picture or peer at it more closely!
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: jeremyp on November 27, 2017, 01:27:30 AM
Ah, right. It looks quite isolated - but that is probably the way it is photographed,  and I did not try to enlarge the picture or peer at it more closely!
It is the way it os photographed. The first photo in the slideshow shows that it is maybe 10 metres from a line of telegraph poles on the right with some houses behind them.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 08:04:59 AM
Whilst it might be a beautiful area, who would want to stay there more than one night? One can birdwatch and holiday without going to such extremes.

Novel though.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 08:28:39 AM
Whilst it might be a beautiful area, who would want to stay there more than one night? One can birdwatch and holiday without going to such extremes.

Novel though.

It’s not for birdwatching.

If I lived there the only thing I’d miss would be a garden, and that could probably be got round.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 09:09:14 AM
I realise the place isn't primarily for birdwatching but imagine one would see plenty of birds in that area, which looks lovely.

Can't see a bathroom or even a toilet and that would bother me but I suppose it isn't a house for living in.  Yet you'd still need a bathroom for a one night stay, surely?
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: floo on November 27, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Whilst it might be a beautiful area, who would want to stay there more than one night? One can birdwatch and holiday without going to such extremes.

Novel though.

The beauty of such an area escapes me, I think marshes are very depressing, but each to their own.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 09:21:33 AM
The skyline in such places is very beautiful, floo, quite amazing in fact, is often photographed and painted - which I would like to do.  The birdlife is wonderful too.  However, each to their own.  I'd visit but not stay, I think, wouldn't feel safe.

Whilst the house might be very clever in some ways it looks to me just like a holiday chalet on stilts except holiday chalets have shower and toilet!  If the 'facilites' are hidden, I wonder where.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 09:24:52 AM
I realise the place isn't primarily for birdwatching but imagine one would see plenty of birds in that area, which looks lovely.

Can't see a bathroom or even a toilet and that would bother me but I suppose it isn't a house for living in.  Yet you'd still need a bathroom for a one night stay, surely?

The description says three rooms - living room, bedroom, bathroom. The tripod legs hide the pipe work.

Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 09:26:32 AM
The beauty of such an area escapes me, I think marshes are very depressing, but each to their own.

The Essex marshes are true wilderness. Stunning sky scapes, abundant wildlife. It’s an edge place. You can feel like there is nothing beyond them.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Shaker on November 27, 2017, 09:43:51 AM
The Essex marshes are true wilderness. Stunning sky scapes, abundant wildlife. It’s an edge place. You can feel like there is nothing beyond them.
Flat littoral areas like Essex always do it best. Philip Larkin thought the same of the Holderness area east of Hull (read 'Here' - it's a stunner). The area of Lincolnshire around The Wash (Holbeach etc.) likewise.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: SusanDoris on November 27, 2017, 09:51:48 AM
The skyline in such places is very beautiful, floo, quite amazing in fact, is often photographed and painted - which I would like to do.  The birdlife is wonderful too.  However, each to their own.  I'd visit but not stay, I think, wouldn't feel safe.

Whilst the house might be very clever in some ways it looks to me just like a holiday chalet on stilts except holiday chalets have shower and toilet!  If the 'facilites' are hidden, I wonder where.
If you follow the links provided up thread, you will see that there is a bathroom and that the services are there but hidden.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 09:53:55 AM
The description says three rooms - living room, bedroom, bathroom. The tripod legs hide the pipe work.

Yes I had another look at the description and it does say that, don't think I read that far before, just looked at the pictures.

Oh well it is cleverly designed, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 10:01:36 AM
Flat littoral areas like Essex always do it best. Philip Larkin thought the same of the Holderness area east of Hull (read 'Here' - it's a stunner). The area of Lincolnshire around The Wash (Holbeach etc.) likewise.

Essex is not flat. That bit of it is though.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Shaker on November 27, 2017, 10:02:21 AM
Essex is not flat. That bit of it is though.
That's what I meant. MacFarlane country.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 27, 2017, 10:06:58 AM
Flat littoral areas like Essex always do it best. Philip Larkin thought the same of the Holderness area east of Hull (read 'Here' - it's a stunner). The area of Lincolnshire around The Wash (Holbeach etc.) likewise.
I know this area , I stayed there for a while , its on the edge of the Colne estuary not far from Jaywick. To be honest , it has an unusual feel to it , sort of ancient , where people have tried to live but cant because its too difficult .
Unless you like mud and birds there's not much to do there. If I remember rightly there's a café near by.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Shaker on November 27, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
I know this area , I stayed there for a while , its on the edge of the Colne estuary not far from Jaywick. To be honest , it has an unusual feel to it , sort of ancient , where people have tried to live but cant because its too difficult .
Unless you like mud and birds there's not much to do there. If I remember rightly there's a café near by.
They're odd, sort of twilight zone places right enough. I like that, though.

They won't be around for much longer, however  :(
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 10:11:32 AM
I like that fact that the house is named after a bird, a wader.

I see it is in St Osyth which is a little town. There are plenty of pictures & information about St Osyth on the 'net.  The wild beach looks nice, unspoilt and I don't mind a relatively flat landscape.  The skyline is always so beautiful with birds flying. However I sort of get what floo is saying, there is a bleakness about it, a sense of isolation.  That's a useful state if you want to be introspective & contemplate but it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 10:22:04 AM
St Osyth is an odd place. All the villages down that way are. Lots of witchcraft and folklore, at least some of it related to smuggling.

I like bleak.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Shaker on November 27, 2017, 10:24:17 AM
St Osyth is an odd place. All the villages down that way are. Lots of witchcraft and folklore, at least some of it related to smuggling.

I like bleak.
Me too.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Robbie on November 27, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
I do at times, if I'm in the mood. I can see the attraction but I think I would draw the line about staying somewhere like that, I'd be nervous. It doesn't matter because I won't be staying there  :D!

Something I'd like to do is explore Essex and Suffolk. Maybe when Chas and I are retired, if we're well enough, we'll do that. Apart from the bits of Essex which are just outside London, I don't know the region except for Saffron Walden where I've been a couple of times with parents as my mum went to school there and liked it.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 27, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
Me too.
It was okay for an extended visit but I didn't stay for long , I moved on to Mersea island, another strange place!
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Rhiannon on November 27, 2017, 12:41:18 PM
It was okay for an extended visit but I didn't stay for long , I moved on to Mersea island, another strange place!

Mersea is bonkers.
Title: Re: RIBA award house built in marsh
Post by: Walter on November 27, 2017, 01:27:12 PM
Mersea is bonkers.
you're right but there's a lovely pub on the front called the Victory, spent quite a bit of time in there , not to say , money 8)