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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on December 21, 2017, 11:09:36 AM

Title: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 21, 2017, 11:09:36 AM
Apparently


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/atheists-do-not-know-how-to-breathe-properly-turkish-therapist-124392
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Gordon on December 21, 2017, 11:19:56 AM
I've always gone for the 'breathe in' followed by 'breathe out', and then 'repeat' approach - wonder what I'm doing wrong.

I blame my soul of course, which I'm told interacts with my biology, for getting it wrong and making me an atheist: which is odd when you think of it, since I'd have thought my soul would be more effective in ensuring I didn't stray into atheism - I may as well not have a soul for all the good it is doing me!
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: floo on December 21, 2017, 02:04:19 PM
Apparently


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/atheists-do-not-know-how-to-breathe-properly-turkish-therapist-124392

And just when you think you have heard everything! ;D

When I go to bed one breathing exercise I do find quite useful in order to help me sleep, is to breath in and out to the count of ten about ten times. It doesn't always work, but often it does.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Shaker on December 21, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
And just when you think you have heard everything!
... there's religion.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Sriram on December 23, 2017, 05:07:08 AM



Pranayama or breathing techniques are a part of Yoga.   They are good for general health, reducing the heart rate, BP and for calming the mind.  They are excellent for depression, agitation, anger, anxiety and other mental issues. 

Whether it will cure atheism is doubtful because Yoga itself is not necessarily theistic.  It is secular and can even be considered  atheistic in the sense that it focuses on  Self development and not on finding God.

Self development however includes progressively moving towards a universal higher level of Consciousness. In that sense, pranayama can be considered as helping us in finding 'God'......since 'God' in Hinduism is a higher level of Consciousness that exists within us.   
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: floo on December 23, 2017, 08:48:49 AM


Pranayama or breathing techniques are a part of Yoga.   They are good for general health, reducing the heart rate, BP and for calming the mind.  They are excellent for depression, agitation, anger, anxiety and other mental issues. 

Whether it will cure atheism is doubtful because Yoga itself is not necessarily theistic.  It is secular and can even be considered  atheistic in the sense that it focuses on  Self development and not on finding God.

Self development however includes progressively moving towards a universal higher level of Consciousness. In that sense, pranayama can be considered as helping us in finding 'God'......since 'God' in Hinduism is a higher level of Consciousness that exists within us.

Atheism is NOT a condition which needs curing, it is as valid as belief, if not more so as no evidence can be produced to support the existence of any god.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: ippy on December 23, 2017, 01:39:16 PM


Pranayama or breathing techniques are a part of Yoga.   They are good for general health, reducing the heart rate, BP and for calming the mind.  They are excellent for depression, agitation, anger, anxiety and other mental issues. 

Whether it will cure atheism is doubtful because Yoga itself is not necessarily theistic.  It is secular and can even be considered  atheistic in the sense that it focuses on  Self development and not on finding God.

Self development however includes progressively moving towards a universal higher level of Consciousness. In that sense, pranayama can be considered as helping us in finding 'God'......since 'God' in Hinduism is a higher level of Consciousness that exists within us.

That sounds really interesting, really really interesting, would you like to see my collection of used teabags?

Regards ippy
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Robbie on December 23, 2017, 10:26:57 PM
There's no need to be so scathing. Sririam's beliefs are as important to him as yours are to you & he is at least interesting.  He doesn't just sneer.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Shaker on December 23, 2017, 10:48:03 PM
If regarding critical, rational, sceptical thought as an adolescent trait - something he's repeated a number of times - isn't sneering, I'm not entirely sure what counts as sneering.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Sriram on December 24, 2017, 04:17:07 AM
There's no need to be so scathing. Sririam's beliefs are as important to him as yours are to you & he is at least interesting.  He doesn't just sneer.


Thanks for that Robbie!  :)

But you know that I am quite used to these folk here.   Nothing makes any dent.  It is like trying to convince a stubborn blind man about the existence of Light...it doesn't work.  I have to keep trying, I guess.   But it is not easy.  Sad...actually!  :(

Maybe they should indeed try some breathing exercises. It might trigger off some suppressed faculties in the brain....and they might actually 'see' those realities that seem to be hidden from them.   

Cheers.

Sriram
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: floo on December 24, 2017, 08:19:12 AM

Thanks for that Robbie!  :)

But you know that I am quite used to these folk here.   Nothing makes any dent.  It is like trying to convince a stubborn blind man about the existence of Light...it doesn't work.  I have to keep trying, I guess.   But it is not easy.  Sad...actually!  :(

Maybe they should indeed try some breathing exercises. It might trigger off some suppressed faculties in the brain....and they might actually 'see' those realities that seem to be hidden from them.   

Cheers.

Sriram

Your reality you mean! ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: ippy on December 24, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
Your reality you mean! ;D ;D ;D


Leave him alone Floo, his science magazine has reduced its size over christmas, a bit like the way our newspapers do, so it leaves him with a lot less of a selection of 'Did you know', type articles for him to choose from.

Merry Newton's day Sriram, ippy   
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: ekim on December 24, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
If regarding critical, rational, sceptical thought as an adolescent trait - something he's repeated a number of times - isn't sneering, I'm not entirely sure what counts as sneering.
I think she was replying to this: "That sounds really interesting, really really interesting, would you like to see my collection of used teabags?" which didn't appear to exhibit 'critical, rational, sceptical thought '.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: ekim on December 24, 2017, 10:58:31 AM
Your reality you mean! ;D ;D ;D
...... as the blind man said to the deaf woman.
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Shaker on December 24, 2017, 11:08:09 AM
I think she was replying to this: "That sounds really interesting, really really interesting, would you like to see my collection of used teabags?" which didn't appear to exhibit 'critical, rational, sceptical thought '.
It didn't have to, being very funny  :)
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Sriram on December 24, 2017, 11:08:24 AM

Leave him alone Floo, his science magazine has reduced its size over christmas, a bit like the way our newspapers do, so it leaves him with a lot less of a selection of 'Did you know', type articles for him to choose from.

Merry Newton's day Sriram, ippy   



Merry Christmas ippy....Robbie, ekim, Floo, Shaker, Gordon, NS and everyone else!


Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: ippy on December 24, 2017, 01:08:00 PM


Merry Christmas ippy....Robbie, ekim, Floo, Shaker, Gordon, NS and everyone else!

Thanks Sri, hope it's a really good year for you and for all.

Kind regards and best wishes ippy
Title: Re: It's all about breathing...
Post by: Harrowby Hall on December 24, 2017, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: Sriram
Pranayama or breathing techniques are a part of Yoga.   They are good for general health, reducing the heart rate, BP and for calming the mind.  They are excellent for depression, agitation, anger, anxiety and other mental issues. 

Whether it will cure atheism is doubtful because Yoga itself is not necessarily theistic.  It is secular and can even be considered  atheistic in the sense that it focuses on  Self development and not on finding God.

Quote from: Littleroses
When I go to bed one breathing exercise I do find quite useful in order to help me sleep, is to breath in and out to the count of ten about ten times. It doesn't always work, but often it does.

I've got a Fitbit watch which does exactly this. I don't think that it carries any endorsement from any guru or any branch of any mystic philosophy.

I got it from Argos.