Religion and Ethics Forum
Religion and Ethics Discussion => Philosophy, in all its guises. => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on December 28, 2017, 10:22:33 AM
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Not just unbearably light but unbearably non conscious.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01924/full
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I found that unreadable tbh.
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The word that come to mind while reading this article is ...obfuscating! A deliberate attempt to make it sound lofty and complex. :D
However...some sentences stand out and are quite relevant.
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Despite the compelling subjective experience of executive self-control, we argue that “consciousness” contains no top-down control processes and that “consciousness” involves no executive, causal, or controlling relationship with any of the familiar psychological processes conventionally attributed to it. In our view, psychological processing and psychological products are not under the control of consciousness.
Most of us believe that what we call “consciousness” is responsible for creating and controlling our mental processes and behavior. The traditional folk usage of the term “consciousness” arguably has two aspects: the experience of “consciousness” and the contents of “consciousness”, our thoughts, beliefs, sensations, percepts, intentions, sense of agency, memories, and emotions. Over the past 30 years, there has been a slow but growing consensus among some students of the cognitive sciences that many of the contents of “consciousness,” are formed backstage by fast, efficient non-conscious systems.
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There are many other articles by scientists that bring out the predominant role of the unconscious mind in our lives. The conscious mind is said to be like a 'broom closet in a mansion' compared to the unconscious mind.
Bold is mine.
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Not just unbearably light but unbearably non conscious.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01924/full
Alan's not going to like it ;)
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The word that come to mind while reading this article is ...obfuscating! A deliberate attempt to make it sound lofty and complex. :D
However...some sentences stand out and are quite relevant.
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Despite the compelling subjective experience of executive self-control, we argue that “consciousness” contains no top-down control processes and that “consciousness” involves no executive, causal, or controlling relationship with any of the familiar psychological processes conventionally attributed to it. In our view, psychological processing and psychological products are not under the control of consciousness.
Most of us believe that what we call “consciousness” is responsible for creating and controlling our mental processes and behavior. The traditional folk usage of the term “consciousness” arguably has two aspects: the experience of “consciousness” and the contents of “consciousness”, our thoughts, beliefs, sensations, percepts, intentions, sense of agency, memories, and emotions. Over the past 30 years, there has been a slow but growing consensus among some students of the cognitive sciences that many of the contents of “consciousness,” are formed backstage by fast, efficient non-conscious systems.
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There are many other articles by scientists that bring out the predominant role of the unconscious mind in our lives. The conscious mind is said to be like a 'broom closet in a mansion' compared to the unconscious mind.
Bold is mine.
Don't go cherry picking now : also quite relevant, is their treatment of the 'self', referred to as not a 'thing' but a process, a product of non-conscious function :
The creation of a stable executive reference system, the “self” (Prinz, 2003), is central to our non-executive account of “consciousness” where we see it as another strategic high level product of non-conscious CES systems offering as it does a critical focus point for the personal narrative. In other words, the embodied self or “center of narrative gravity”
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Not just unbearably light but unbearably non conscious.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01924/full
can you tell me what its all about in 5 sentences otherwise I cant be bothered
best wishes ;D
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can you tell me what its all about in 5 sentences otherwise I cant be bothered
best wishes ;D
Who needs 5 sentences? Two words - shit happens!
For the 5 sentence version I recommend this from the admirable torridon
http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=10333.msg712224#msg712224
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Not just unbearably light but unbearably non conscious.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01924/full
Sounds like a ten minute opus from a YES album!