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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Humph Warden Bennett on January 30, 2018, 01:10:31 PM

Title: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on January 30, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Hi all

There has been a growing trend over the past few years for a person to record a "Farewell" video, to be played after their death, in some cases at a service (if allowed) in other cases at home.

Do posters like this idea?
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: floo on January 30, 2018, 02:05:26 PM
Hi all

There has been a growing trend over the past few years for a person to record a "Farewell" video, to be played after their death, in some cases at a service (if allowed) in other cases at home.

Do posters like this idea?

No, too morbid for my taste.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Robbie on January 30, 2018, 02:23:18 PM
No, I don't like the idea but if people want to do it I don't think it's wrong, wouldn't criticise them for it.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on January 30, 2018, 05:03:45 PM
My own view is that I would prefer to be remembered as being handsome & healthy, rather than as a sick old man lacking hair & teeth.

But some like the idea...Bernard Manning being one.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: jeremyp on January 31, 2018, 12:03:32 AM
Hi all

There has been a growing trend over the past few years for a person to record a "Farewell" video, to be played after their death, in some cases at a service (if allowed) in other cases at home.

Do posters like this idea?
I'd find that quite creepy to be honest.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: ippy on January 31, 2018, 01:41:00 PM
No, I don't like the idea but if people want to do it I don't think it's wrong, wouldn't criticise them for it.

!00% with you Rob, on this one.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: ippy on January 31, 2018, 03:29:15 PM
My own view is that I would prefer to be remembered as being handsome & healthy, rather than as a sick old man lacking hair & teeth.

But some like the idea...Bernard Manning being one.

It's amazing the things they can do with cosmetic surgery these days and they can also do some considerable feats with just make up when you're laid out in the box, you should be able to find these people locally H

Kind regards ippy
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Humph Warden Bennett on January 31, 2018, 04:08:26 PM
It's amazing the things they can do with cosmetic surgery these days and they can also do some considerable feats with just make up when you're laid out in the box, you should be able to find these people locally H

Kind regards ippy

OK so "Ippy in a box" underneath Ippy on a screen above would be ok for you?

TBH the idea of sending a "farewell" message to my friends & loved ones does seem rather crass & a little creepy, I would hope that I was at least compos mentis enough to say goodbye to my friends & loved ones whilst I was alive, rather than from my funeral service. However, if I was told by my doctor that my faculties were leaving me, then I might record a short, and mostly lighthearted, film, before I was incapable of doing so.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: ippy on January 31, 2018, 08:01:50 PM
OK so "Ippy in a box" underneath Ippy on a screen above would be ok for you?

TBH the idea of sending a "farewell" message to my friends & loved ones does seem rather crass & a little creepy, I would hope that I was at least compos mentis enough to say goodbye to my friends & loved ones whilst I was alive, rather than from my funeral service. However, if I was told by my doctor that my faculties were leaving me, then I might record a short, and mostly lighthearted, film, before I was incapable of doing

It's not for me and I've no problem with the idea either.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: jeremyp on January 31, 2018, 11:27:08 PM
I wonder if I could record a message and have my body turned into an animatronic to deliver it. I imagine the effect on the attendees of my funeral will be quite profound when I sit up in my coffin and start lip syncing Auld Lang Syne.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: ippy on February 01, 2018, 02:14:30 PM
I wonder if I could record a message and have my body turned into an animatronic to deliver it. I imagine the effect on the attendees of my funeral will be quite profound when I sit up in my coffin and start lip syncing Auld Lang Syne.

The delivery might be a bit stiff.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 20, 2018, 10:36:54 PM
If anything should be absolutely traditional, it's a funeral, and that isn't traditional, so no.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2018, 10:51:46 PM
If anything should be absolutely traditional, it's a funeral, and that isn't traditional, so no.
Why should a funeral be 'absolutely tradiotonal'? And what does that mean to you?
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Rhiannon on February 20, 2018, 10:54:15 PM
If anything should be absolutely traditional, it's a funeral, and that isn't traditional, so no.

I’m not a Christian, and not a humanist. What is ‘traditional’ for me?
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Robbie on February 21, 2018, 12:34:02 AM
I found this quite moving, don't know if it applies to you Rhi.  Every religion or belief has some sort of tradition I suppose.

https://mysendoff.com/2011/06/pagan-funeral-traditions/

Night night all.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 21, 2018, 06:55:13 AM
Why should a funeral be 'absolutely tradiotonal'? And what does that mean to you?
Because it's a funeral. To me, it means the traditional service of the person's religion or denomination. Non-believers will have to do something different, but modern technology should not have a part.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 21, 2018, 07:22:54 AM
So the reason a funeral should be absolutely traditional is that it is a funeral and funerals should be absolutely traditional, hmmm.


Given that tradition is a thing that evolved, surely it is then traditional for it to evolve?
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 21, 2018, 07:30:53 AM
So the reason a funeral should be absolutely traditional is that it is a funeral and funerals should be absolutely traditional, hmmm.


Given that tradition is a thing that evolved, surely it is then traditional for it to evolve?
Yes, but evolution is slow.
Obviously, my answer was somewhat circular. I realised it at the time. If you don't think funerals should be traditional, I'm not likely to convince you otherwise, so I was being facetious.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 21, 2018, 07:48:08 AM
Yes, but evolution is slow.
Obviously, my answer was somewhat circular. I realised it at the time. If you don't think funerals should be traditional, I'm not likely to convince you otherwise, so I was being facetious.
maybe the technology is a time for a bit of punctuated equilibrium
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 21, 2018, 07:53:12 AM
Ho ho, very droll.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: jeremyp on February 24, 2018, 05:29:44 PM
Because it's a funeral. To me, it means the traditional service of the person's religion or denomination. Non-believers will have to do something different, but modern technology should not have a part.
To you yes. Why should you're opinion apply to anybody else? Once upon a time, crematoria were modern technology. So were coffins. Your opinion is irrational.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Anchorman on February 24, 2018, 07:51:59 PM
If you're a bit iffy about a farewell video, this'll tip you over the edge..... https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/high-tech-headstones-speak-grave/story?id=10078212
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Rhiannon on February 24, 2018, 08:44:46 PM
To you yes. Why should you're opinion apply to anybody else? Once upon a time, crematoria were modern technology. So were coffins. Your opinion is irrational.

The traditional ‘left on a hilltop and picked clean by birds’ isn’t available at the Co- op.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 25, 2018, 02:56:27 PM
To you yes. Why should you're opinion apply to anybody else?
It doesn't. we were asked our opinion of farewell videos. I gave mine.
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Once upon a time, crematoria were modern technology. So were coffins. Your opinion is irrational.
Rationality has nothing to do with either side of the question.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Anchorman on February 25, 2018, 07:32:30 PM
There's nothing anyone can do for the body in the box. The funeral service, be it religious or secular, is there for the family, and if the family derive comfort froma 'traditional' funeral, so be it. However, if the family want innovations in music or coffin design, or whatever, fair enough - that's what they feel would ease thier feeling and help the grieving process. I've conducted a few funerals now as a reader, some 'traditional' some not so traditional...the only line I'd draw is the fact that I don't , and won't, do a secular funeral. The rest is up to the family of the deceased. It's their day, not mine.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: jeremyp on February 25, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
It doesn't. we were asked our opinion of farewell videos. I gave mine.
You said modern technology shouldn't play a part. That goes beyond farewell videos.
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Rationality has nothing to do with either side of the question.
That's the problem isn't it. People don't think rationally about funerals.

For example, I used to think about what I'd like to happen at my funeral but, thinking rationally, I'm the one person who's guaranteed not to be there, so why should my opinion carry any weight? They can do what they like.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Rhiannon on February 25, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
You said modern technology shouldn't play a part. That goes beyond farewell videos. That's the problem isn't it. People don't think rationally about funerals.

For example, I used to think about what I'd like to happen at my funeral but, thinking rationally, I'm the one person who's guaranteed not to be there, so why should my opinion carry any weight? They can do what they like.

I’ve left basic instructions because if I don’t make plans there could be conflict. My atheist kids are all minors (just) so my Christian parents would probably be the ones to do the planning. The kids would hate a Christian service.

Not that anticipate for this to ever be necessary.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Steve H on February 26, 2018, 01:31:16 PM
There's nothing anyone can do for the body in the box. The funeral service, be it religious or secular, is there for the family, and if the family derive comfort froma 'traditional' funeral, so be it. However, if the family want innovations in music or coffin design, or whatever, fair enough - that's what they feel would ease thier feeling and help the grieving process. I've conducted a few funerals now as a reader, some 'traditional' some not so traditional...the only line I'd draw is the fact that I don't , and won't, do a secular funeral. The rest is up to the family of the deceased. It's their day, not mine.
There is something in that, but most families would want the dead person's wishes respected, if they expressed any in advance - which is somewhat circular, but there it is.
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: SweetPea on February 26, 2018, 08:49:22 PM
I've only attended one funeral where there was one of these videos played and I hate to say it but it was horrendous. It was on a huge screen at one end of the room. The video was silent but had a musical overlay that was far too loud, so anyone trying to have a conversation was shouting to be heard. It ran for roughly 30mins but then replayed over and over. After a couple of hours and on the third replay I said to the OH.... gotta get outta 'ere!
Title: Re: "Farewell" Videos
Post by: Sassy on May 12, 2018, 04:23:22 PM
Hi all

There has been a growing trend over the past few years for a person to record a "Farewell" video, to be played after their death, in some cases at a service (if allowed) in other cases at home.

Do posters like this idea?

Not sure if a good idea. Depends if they want a living will so to speak where they tell everyone what they are getting and why.
It is a good idea to leave a video if you have not told your family about your up coming death, I am guessing if you don't tell them then you feel they don't care or just protecting them when in truth you are not. Just say your goodbyes and have it done with,