Religion and Ethics Forum

General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 01:09:52 PM

Title: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 01:09:52 PM
I only buy a newspaper on Saturdays, I'm sure we all have our reasons for chosing the papers we have.

I have the Telegraph and the Express most of the other newspapers either annoy me ot their review pages only manage to cover T V soaps or things like big brother.

I don't go with the Telegraphs views but on the whole I find it funny with its hang em and flog em attitude to almost anything, it makes me laugh, my wife has the Express, I don'mind it, it's pro brexit, like the majority so am I, the paper's not that annoying to me.

I cannot stand any of the liberal type papers they always, it seems to me, when the reporters are not reporting they are fighting each other for places to lay down at any port of entry into the U K so that the new arrivals will have somewhere comfortable and dry to wipe their feet and that's only one of the things liberal thinking comes out with really annoys me, allthough, I'm pretty generally liberal in my views on most political subjects.

I don't like or support any of the political parties we have here in the U K.

ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on March 01, 2018, 01:47:58 PM
I only buy a newspaper on Saturdays, I'm sure we all have our reasons for chosing the papers we have.

I have the Telegraph and the Express most of the other newspapers either annoy me ot their review pages only manage to cover T V soaps or things like big brother.

I don't go with the Telegraphs views but on the whole I find it funny with its hang em and flog em attitude to almost anything, it makes me laugh, my wife has the Express, I don'mind it, it's pro brexit, like the majority so am I, the paper's not that annoying to me.

I cannot stand any of the liberal type papers they always, it seems to me, when the reporters are not reporting they are fighting each other for places to lay down at any port of entry into the U K so that the new arrivals will have somewhere comfortable and dry to wipe their feet and that's only one of the things liberal thinking comes out with really annoys me, allthough, I'm pretty generally liberal in my views on most political subjects.

I don't like or support any of the political parties we have here in the U K.

ippy
I went off the Telegraph and Express when I first started to suffer from haemorrhoids.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Harrowby Hall on March 01, 2018, 01:56:06 PM
I went off the Telegraph and Express when I first started to suffer from haemorrhoids.

You can get good quality toilet paper from any supermarket.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 01, 2018, 02:06:44 PM
I'm pretty liberal, but...... I read the Telegraph & the Express.

That's some kind of cognitive dissonance you've got going on right there.

Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 01, 2018, 02:51:44 PM
Couldn't tell you the last time I bought a newspaper.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 02:54:38 PM
I'm pretty liberal, but...... I read the Telegraph & the Express.

That's some kind of cognitive dissonance you've got going on right there.

I like it, you're right Trent, the only excuses I can come up with, is mostly, I'm not  cruel person but I do like cruelty in humour, then the book film and arts reviews in the Telegraph are obviously beyond reproach because they do with very few exceptions fit in within my tastes in these things, I enjoy the letters in the motoring section and then as I indicated the papers desire to hang any one that steals over say £25 and flog those that perform lesser crimes, attitude makes me smile.

When you add to the above where most of the other papers are annoyingly simple or are really annouing to me, I find the Gardian particularly annoying and it can be anger with this one, so I make a point of not reading it because I prefer to not be angry in general, which papers are there left for me to have a good read of?

Regards ippy

P S Just heard on a radio phone in on central heating where this chaps wife's continuingly telling him she's cold so he told her to suck on to some extra strong mints, sounds reasonable to me.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 01, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
Like NS I can't remember the last time I read a newspaper - I do read bits on line that pop up, mainly the Guardian  :P and Huff Post.

I find it entertaining that The Guardian irritates you; as it, like you, is pretty liberal!

The printed press is a dying form I think, at least in the form it is now. Whether it can fully transform to the Net or morph into something as yet unknown , who knows. 
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 03:34:57 PM
Like NS I can't remember the last time I read a newspaper - I do read bits on line that pop up, mainly the Guardian  :P and Huff Post.

I find it entertaining that The Guardian irritates you; as it, like you, is pretty liberal!

The printed press is a dying form I think, at least in the form it is now. Whether it can fully transform to the Net or morph into something as yet unknown , who knows.

Yes I try my best to be that way but the few times I've picked up the gardian, it manages to bring out the worst grumpy old man inside of me, so just as you say, I can't explain either; I only buy papers on a Saturday.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Walter on March 01, 2018, 03:45:02 PM
Yes I try my best to be that way but the few times I've picked up the gardian, it manages to bring out the worst grumpy old man inside of me, so just a you say, I can't explain either; I only buy papers on a Saturday.

Regards ippy
I tend to buy a newspaper if the weather is bad, as it is now . I find it ideal for standing my wellingtons on as it soaks up  the water that drains from them .
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Robbie on March 01, 2018, 03:48:51 PM
Couldn't tell you the last time I bought a newspaper.

Same here. I read the local freebies & anything in a cafe.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 04:00:45 PM
Same here. I read the local freebies & anything in a cafe.

Page three reminds me of something?

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Robbie on March 01, 2018, 04:16:21 PM
 :D I stand my tea on that page, it don't do nuffink for me.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Rhiannon on March 01, 2018, 04:24:25 PM
Couldn't tell you the last time I bought a newspaper.

Nor me. I read the Graun online which both interests and infuriates me in equal measure. And I get news from the Beeb.

My dad has a disgraceful habit of buying the Wail and the Currant Bun and leaving them in my house. Since my wood burner has been repaired I have noticed though they they are extremely useful for getting the fire going.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 01, 2018, 05:30:38 PM
Nor me. I read the Graun online which both interests and infuriates me in equal measure. And I get news from the Beeb.

My dad has a disgraceful habit of buying the Wail and the Currant Bun and leaving them in my house. Since my wood burner has been repaired I have noticed though they they are extremely useful for getting the fire going.
Yes, I tend to use the BBC both online and radio for main news. I watch Channel 4 news. I read a number if online newspapers and look out for some writers. Because it often presents me with a view I disagree with I use CapX
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ad_orientem on March 01, 2018, 06:21:39 PM
I don't read newspapers. I don't even watch the news on the telly most days. Can't be bothered.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 01, 2018, 08:11:50 PM
I don't read newspapers. I don't even watch the news on the telly most days. Can't be bothered.

I have some sympathy with you there Ad O, for most of the time I don't think we get a straight version of the news anyway, plus it's mostly depressing news as well.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Robbie on March 01, 2018, 08:32:45 PM
Depressing is the word alright. I do hear it on the car radio &sometimes see on TV but I'm not hung up on getting the latest news (my ol' man is). When I log out of my Outlook account the headlines plus some dross come up, that's quite sufficient for me, no need for a paper.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: jeremyp on March 02, 2018, 12:20:18 AM
I'm pretty liberal, but...... I read the Telegraph & the Express.

That's some kind of cognitive dissonance you've got going on right there.
Tony Benn said you should read a newspaper that has an editorial view with which you disagree.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ProfessorDavey on March 02, 2018, 07:45:56 AM
Used to get the Independent - had been buying it since it was launched. When to disappeared in paper format I tried the electronic version, but really didn't get on with it and it had lost content I enjoyed. Since then I have been buying the Times.

Cannot stand the Telegraph - thinks it is a broadsheet (in actual terms it is, the only one left) - but in journalism terms it sits between the Mail and the real quality papers. It is obsessed with religion, royals and (of course) right wing politics.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 02, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
Tony Benn said you should read a newspaper that has an editorial view with which you disagree.

I'm aware of that - for that very reason I have always kept an eye on the Mail, although never bought it, I used to read a colleagues at work for many years, she retired so now I make do with online.

Best to know what the enemy is up to.

Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Rhiannon on March 02, 2018, 11:04:34 AM
I sometimes look for a specific article on the Mail website (usually to marvel at how appalling it is) but I dont like the thought that they might earn money from web traffic.,
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 02, 2018, 11:56:46 AM
Used to get the Independent - had been buying it since it was launched. When to disappeared in paper format I tried the electronic version, but really didn't get on with it and it had lost content I enjoyed. Since then I have been buying the Times.

Cannot stand the Telegraph - thinks it is a broadsheet (in actual terms it is, the only one left) - but in journalism terms it sits between the Mail and the real quality papers. It is obsessed with religion, royals and (of course) right wing politics.

You've described the Telegraph to a tee, I love the extremism of it that's the bit that makes me smile more than get annoyed with it, I'm so opposed to the lack of decent everyday morality of Murdoch Snr, Milly Dowler etc I couldn't possibly knowingly buy anything that passes through his hands, such as the Times.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 02, 2018, 12:14:37 PM
Tony Benn said you should read a newspaper that has an editorial view with which you disagree.

I didn't share a lot in common with Wedggie but admire and respect his principles and would always consider most of anything he had to say, I think he's one of those people that have made the world a little bit of a better place, left a mark.

The Guardian's content, really does annoy me, at my age I don't need it, but you're certainly right in what you say, most of us opt out of doing the right thing from time to time, the Guardian will remain opted out in my sphere, for good, I have no respect for its outlook.

Regards ippy




Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: jeremyp on March 02, 2018, 02:27:29 PM
I'm aware of that - for that very reason I have always kept an eye on the Mail, although never bought it, I used to read a colleagues at work for many years, she retired so now I make do with online.
I don't think he would characterise the Mail as it is now as a newspaper.
Quote
Best to know what the enemy is up to.
The real point is that you have got to understand the arguments in order to counter them. That and there is always the possibility that they are right.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Aruntraveller on March 02, 2018, 03:13:46 PM
Quote
The real point is that you have got to understand the arguments in order to counter them. That and there is always the possibility that they are right.

In the Mails case infrequently, in my experience.

Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ProfessorDavey on March 02, 2018, 04:59:31 PM
You've described the Telegraph to a tee, I love the extremism of it that's the bit that makes me smile more than get annoyed with it, I'm so opposed to the lack of decent everyday morality of Murdoch Snr, Milly Dowler etc I couldn't possibly knowingly buy anything that passes through his hands, such as the Times.

Regards ippy
The Times wouldn't be my first choice, but I want a real paper and sadly the Independent isn't that anymore. I agree on Murdoch - but what to do eh!

The thing that really irritates my about the Telegraph is the kind-of casual acceptance that of course everyone really thinks how they do - the kind of equivalent of people who always talk about 'common sense' basically meaning what they thing regardless of whether it is common sense at all.
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Steve H on March 02, 2018, 07:32:13 PM
Tony Benn said you should read a newspaper that has an editorial view with which you disagree.
And George Orwell once said that if you want to read the truth in a newspaper, you should start at the back - they usually manage to get the sports results right. He also said "some things are true, even though the 'Daily Telegraph' says so".
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: ippy on March 02, 2018, 08:39:37 PM
The Times wouldn't be my first choice, but I want a real paper and sadly the Independent isn't that anymore. I agree on Murdoch - but what to do eh!

The thing that really irritates my about the Telegraph is the kind-of casual acceptance that of course everyone really thinks how they do - the kind of equivalent of people who always talk about 'common sense' basically meaning what they thing regardless of whether it is common sense at all.

I think it's a case of like most things in life just do your best with all we have, there's no definitive answer.

Regards ippy
Title: Re: Newspapers
Post by: Robbie on March 02, 2018, 09:35:45 PM
When I worked in London I used to commute and picked up newspapers on the train which people discarded when they got off - outward and return journeys. I picked up all sorts, a couple of times a Scottish newspaper, goodness knows what it was doing around London. When I arrived at work people would ask me what paper I'd got for them today. There was also the free Metro but all the Metro is, is a hash of the tabloids.