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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on April 03, 2018, 03:17:03 PM

Title: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 03, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
At least according to the article in the Times


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/there-s-a-hole-in-the-centre-made-for-a-saviour-t0z5rg7sv
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: jakswan on April 03, 2018, 03:49:23 PM
Which party would he join, he is not a socialist so rules Labour out.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: jeremyp on April 03, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
Which party would he join, he is not a socialist so rules Labour out.
I can't read the article because it is paywalled, but I assume he would start a new one.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Steve H on April 03, 2018, 10:57:46 PM
Which party would he join, he is not a socialist so rules Labour out.
The Labour party contains socialists, but it is not an exclusively socialist party.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Rhiannon on April 04, 2018, 12:36:12 AM
The Labour party contains socialists, but it is not an exclusively socialist party.

Difficult to see him finding a welcome from Momentum though.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Harrowby Hall on April 04, 2018, 08:19:19 AM
Would the Labour Party be in its present condition if David Milliband had become leader instead of his brother?
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: floo on April 04, 2018, 08:47:01 AM
I think David Milliband would make a good leader of the Labour Party, better than his brother, Ed, and a million times better than Corbyn. I think with him as leader they would stand a good chance of winning an election.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Rhiannon on April 04, 2018, 08:52:45 AM
Would the Labour Party be in its present condition if David Milliband had become leader instead of his brother?

I was thinking the same thing. We may well have not had this appalling government that we do now.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: floo on April 04, 2018, 09:17:48 AM
I was thinking the same thing. We may well have not had this appalling government that we do now.

It would be much worse if Corbyn was in charge. :o
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: jeremyp on April 04, 2018, 12:52:57 PM
Would the Labour Party be in its present condition if David Milliband had become leader instead of his brother?
No, I think it would have won the 2015 election. Or, if it had lost and David Miliband had survived,, Remain would have won the referendum, or if it had lost, the Tories would have been annihilated in the 2017 election - well,, actually, the 2017 election wouldn't have happened because Labour would have a lead in the opinion polls.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Aruntraveller on April 04, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
It would be much worse if Corbyn was in charge. :o

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Steve H on April 04, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Some wag once said of him that his main problem was that he was the Milliband who wasn't David, and the Ed who wasn't Balls. I wonder what their grandfather Glenn would make of it.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 04, 2018, 06:48:20 PM

A piece by the saviour



https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2018/04/why-labour-must-back-new-brexit-referendum?amp
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
A piece by the saviour



https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2018/04/why-labour-must-back-new-brexit-referendum?amp

Another well argued reason to stop Brexit.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on April 10, 2018, 07:37:03 PM
Any labour wannabe is going to have to get there all by themself and even if they manage to fashion out a version of labour they then have to overcome the Englishperson's and the posh scotsperson's innate hatred of labour.

There is no Heir to Blair.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Nearly Sane on April 10, 2018, 07:40:58 PM
Any labour wannabe is going to have to get there all by themself and even if they manage to fashion out a version of labour they then have to overcome the Englishperson's and the posh scotsperson's innate hatred of labour.

There is no Heir to Blair.
Certainly not for you if you see Corbyn as a hypocritical antitheist.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on May 07, 2018, 10:31:04 AM
Difficult to see him finding a welcome from Momentum though.
David Milliband is a self exile in the most lyrical and poetic sense. He was the brother across the sea so as not to queer Ed's pitch but took another three years sabbatical ensuring he is unlikely to have a heroes return, a Bonny Prince Charlie moment at any time that counts.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on May 07, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Certainly not for you if you see Corbyn as a hypocritical antitheist.
The only time the so called heirs to Blair are heard from when themselves and the press allow them to sing.
Title: Re: The saviour: David Miliband
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on May 07, 2018, 10:38:30 AM
A piece by the saviour

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2018/04/why-labour-must-back-new-brexit-referendum?amp
An interesting piece from the head of a charity.