Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Science and Technology => Topic started by: Grace of God on April 10, 2018, 09:52:16 AM
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just wondering..
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just wondering..
No, you're not 'just wondering' at all.
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I've had a go at breeding roses, which is sort-of controlled evolution.
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just wondering..
The very fact that you ask the question would appear to demonstrate a severe lack in some areas of your education.
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No, you're not 'just wondering' at all.
ohh i wonder what forums mind readers went on...lol
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The very fact that you ask the question would appear to demonstrate a severe lack in some areas of your education.
boring, not another, if you don't accept it you must be stupid post..lol
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ohh i wonder what forums mind readers went on...lol
No mind reading needed. Very obvious.
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No mind reading needed. Very obvious.
lol
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lol
You clearly don't accept the Theory of Evolution. Can you firstly summarise the theory, confirm that you know what a theory is, and explain why you think the theory is invalid please.
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just wondering..
I had kids.
I notice they share some characteristics of me but not all and some characteristics of their mum, but not all.
So there we go, descent with modification, variation for selection to act upon.
Seems to fit with the theory to me.
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You clearly don't accept the Theory of Evolution. Can you firstly summarise the theory, confirm that you know what a theory is, and explain why you think the theory is invalid please.
which version do you claim is true...
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I had kids.
I notice they share some characteristics of me but not all and some characteristics of their mum, but not all.
So there we go, descent with modification, variation for selection to act upon.
Seems to fit with the theory to me.
lol and how was the first life started then...??
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lol and how was the first life started then...??
So far it is not known.
Is that a problem?
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lol and how was the first life started then...??
You need a different theory for that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis)
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which version do you claim is true...
lol and how was the first life started then...??
So you know nothing about the subject.... ::)
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Wow, this stuff is so predictable, it must be a single bot. Ask a question about evolution, and then switch to the beginning of life. There must be a central creationist bot-factory.
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Wow, this stuff is so predictable, it must be a single bot. Ask a question about evolution, and then switch to the beginning of life. There must be a central creationist bot-factory.
It is appaling that so much ignorance still abounds. And to think it was always there is even more dreadful - it is the internet that has revealed the extent of the abysmal depths of wrong information being shared.
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You need a different theory for that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis)
so did evolution effect the first life on the planet??
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So you know nothing about the subject.... ::)
which version of evolution do you claim is true, that's what i asked, do you support the idea of slow change over a great period of time, or perhaps punctuated equilibrium or a mix of both, perhaps all out darwinian...
how did you research your choices and come to believe them as facts, if you do indeed believe them as facts??
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so did evolution effect the first life on the planet??
Evolution didn't effeect anything; it didn't even affect it.
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Evolution didn't effeect anything; it didn't even affect it.
lol before you correct others perhaps you should correct your own... :)
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lol before you correct others perhaps you should correct your own... :)
You will note that I did, as fast as my software will allow.
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You will note that I did, as fast as my software will allow.
effeect....lol your software is as unaware as you are...
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so did evolution effect the first life on the planet??
WTF is that supposed to mean?
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effeect....lol your software is as unaware as you are...
As a new member, you well not be aware of how restricted SD's sight is. I suggest that rather than attempting to use a typo in this circumstance to distract from your own misuse of the term, you maybe expand more clearly on what you were trying to say.
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As a new member, you well not be aware of how restricted SD's sight is. I suggest that rather than attempting to use a typo in this circumstance to distract from your own misuse of the term, you maybe expand more clearly on what you were trying to say.
perhaps people should be aware before they throw grammar nazi comments in... to try and look clever..
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perhaps people should be aware before they throw grammar nazi comments in... to try and look clever..
Pointing out that your post made no sense isn't being a grammar Nazi. You seem very confused.
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Pointing out that your post made no sense isn't being a grammar Nazi. You seem very confused.
no the poster pointed out i used effect rather than affect, yet they understood perfectly what I meant...
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no the poster pointed out i used effect rather than affect, yet they understood perfectly what I meant...
I suggest you reread the post. It points out that neither word makes sense contextually.
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which version of evolution do you claim is true, that's what i asked...
You're doing a lot of asking and not much answering.
...do you support the idea of slow change over a great period of time, or perhaps punctuated equilibrium or a mix of both, perhaps all out darwinian...
How is an answer to that going to affect your answer to #8 (http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=15463.msg728206#msg728206)? Do you think one of these 'versions' (or more) is right?
I suggest you start with the basics of natural selection. However, since you didn't even seem to understand that evolution wasn't about the start of life, I have no confidence at all that you have any understanding of it at all...
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which version do you claim is true...
I make no truth claims, that is religious speak.
That evolution has happened is a fact supported by a huge amount of evidence.The process or processes by which that has happened continue to be investigated by science. Natural selection is the main factor but evolution is likely to be effected by other factors. I accept evolution by natural selection as a valid theory to explain the huge variety of species on this planet. If evidence comes up to invalidate that I will accept it. That's how science works.
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You're doing a lot of asking and not much answering.
How is an answer to that going to affect your answer to #8 (http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=15463.msg728206#msg728206)? Do you think one of these 'versions' (or more) is right?
I suggest you start with the basics of natural selection. However, since you didn't even seem to understand that evolution wasn't about the start of life, I have no confidence at all that you have any understanding of it at all...
well if they claim evolution is absolute fact, I need to know which version they believe to be true otherwise i would have to generalise..
if you don't know what you believe that's fine... you don't have to answer..
yes I know evolution is not about the beginning of life, just as well as it would make even less sense but you would have thought there would have been a logic way to backward engineer evolution to the beginning, if it were true of course...
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well if they claim evolution is absolute fact, I need to know which version they believe to be true otherwise i would have to generalise..
That species have evolved is a fact. You are asking about the process by which that happened
Yes I know evolution is not about the beginning of life, just as well as it would make even less sense but you would have thought there would have been a logic way to backward engineer evolution to the beginning, if it were true of course...
No readon why there should be. This is a common tactic of YECs to try to link the two processes.
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That species have evolved is a fact. You are asking about the process by which that happened
No readon why there should be. This is a common tactic of YECs to try to link the two processes.
species have changed, developed yes...
yec???
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species have changed, developed yes...
So you accept evolution has happened.
yec???
What?
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So you accept evolution has happened.
What?
what does YEC's mean....
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what does YEC's mean....
Young Earth Creationist.
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well if they claim evolution is absolute fact, I need to know which version they believe to be true otherwise i would have to generalise..
Evolution is an observed fact. The theory of evolution is an explanation of that fact. The various options you spoke of change very little and aren't really competing versions of the theory but disagreements over detail - so feel free to generalise as much as you like.
yes I know evolution is not about the beginning of life, just as well as it would make even less sense but you would have thought there would have been a logic way to backward engineer evolution to the beginning, if it were true of course...
That alone tells me you don't understand the basics - of science, let alone evolution. But what the hell - what is it about evolution that doesn't make sense?
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Evolution is an observed fact. The theory of evolution is an explanation of that fact. The various options you spoke of change very little and aren't really competing versions of the theory but disagreements over detail - so feel free to generalise as much as you like.
That alone tells me you don't understand the basics - of science, let alone evolution. But what the hell - what is it about evolution that doesn't make sense?
How much detail has to change before it is considered to be wrong??
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How much detail has to change before it is considered to be wrong??
It depends on the evidence.
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It depends on the evidence.
In what way??
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Evolution is an observed fact. The theory of evolution is an explanation of that fact. The various options you spoke of change very little and aren't really competing versions of the theory but disagreements over detail - so feel free to generalise as much as you like.
That alone tells me you don't understand the basics - of science, let alone evolution. But what the hell - what is it about evolution that doesn't make sense?
How much detail has to change before it is considered to be wrong??
Still expecting all your questions answered and never answering the ones people ask you...
Until you demonstrate a basic grasp of what the theory of evolution actually is, it's pointless talking about the details - I have seen much evidence (in your posts) that you know nothing about it.
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In what way??
Do you know what a theory is in science?
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How much detail has to change before it is considered to be wrong??
not so much a question or right or wrong, but rather refinement. New detail is coming all the time, it all adds to the breadth and depth of our knowledge.
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How much detail has to change before it is considered to be wrong??
Still expecting all your questions answered and never answering the ones people ask you...
Until you demonstrate a basic grasp of what the theory of evolution actually is, it's pointless talking about the details - I have seen much evidence (in your posts) that you know nothing about it.
you could say you don't know, it would be easier... :)
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you could say you don't know, it would be easier... :)
And inaccurate. Asking endless stupid questions, refusing to respond to questions asked of you, then accusing others of not being able to answer when they get tired of the silly game, is not an honest approach to debate.
You said that evolution didn't make sense (in #31 (http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=15463.msg728328#msg728328) when you were trying to cover up the fact that you didn't know evolution wasn't about the start of life) - why not?