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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Christian Topic => Topic started by: Owlswing on June 18, 2018, 07:20:05 AM

Title: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: Owlswing on June 18, 2018, 07:20:05 AM


From Yahoo


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/royal-wedding-effect-church-england-071740106.html
Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: Maeght on June 18, 2018, 08:06:56 AM
I shouldn't worry about it. Just shows a bit of desperation. It'll pass.
Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: Owlswing on June 18, 2018, 09:18:02 AM

I shouldn't worry about it. Just shows a bit of desperation. It'll pass.


In this country we seem eager to embrace, more often than not, the very worst of American culture. Why, I have no idea, they do have some good things that we don't, I can't think of one just at the moment but there must be some, but American Evangelical Fire and Brimstone preachers - Hell NO!
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Post by: Robbie on June 18, 2018, 09:37:44 AM
That particular minister is not a fire and brimstone type preacher& he's a man with extremely liberal views.
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Post by: Alan Burns on June 18, 2018, 11:03:59 AM
Great to see that the Christian message is still as powerful as ever.
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Post by: Steve H on June 18, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
More barbarism in the interests of modernity. Save the pews!
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jun/09/bath-abbey-victorian-pews-sold-off-adapt-to-21st-century
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Post by: Rhiannon on June 18, 2018, 01:56:46 PM
In this country we seem eager to embrace, more often than not, the very worst of American culture. Why, I have no idea, they do have some good things that we don't, I can't think of one just at the moment but there must be some, but American Evangelical Fire and Brimstone preachers - Hell NO!

He’s actually s liberal and pro gay. Once people spend some time going to church and realise that most clergy aren’t like that they’ll get bored or disgusted.

Btw I can’t get the link to work.
Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: Maeght on June 18, 2018, 01:57:19 PM
Great to see that the Christian message is still as powerful as ever.


What makes you say that?
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Post by: ippy on June 18, 2018, 03:15:33 PM
Great to see that the Christian message is still as powerful as ever.

Oh yes Alan, where was that then?

Commiserations to you, ippy
Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: Robbie on June 18, 2018, 04:41:04 PM
I thought, "Why are you commiserating with ippy?" before I realised it was Ippy saying it!

I presume Alan approved of Bishop Curry's address at the wedding, I thought it was very good too, uplifting, even tho' he did go on a bit too long; what he talked about applied to everyone, not just Christians.

Owlswing this really doesn't affect you at all, you don't go to church never mind a church of England so why worry. Plenty more important things to worry about - like people resident in the UK not being allowed back into the country if they go abroad to care for sick relatives. Now that is something worthy of this thread's title.
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Post by: Steve H on June 18, 2018, 11:59:10 PM
Forgot the link in my earlier post.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/jun/09/bath-abbey-victorian-pews-sold-off-adapt-to-21st-century
Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: ad_orientem on June 20, 2018, 06:56:39 PM
The very last thing I go to church for is the homiliy.
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Post by: jeremyp on June 20, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
More barbarism in the interests of modernity.
That's probably what they said when they put the pews in after 250 years without them.

Title: Re: . . . and I thought things could not get worse . . .
Post by: ad_orientem on June 21, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
That's probably what they said when they put the pews in after 250 years without them.

Get rid of them, I would. Designed to fascilitate the hearing of long boring sermons.
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Post by: Robbie on June 21, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
I hate long sermons too. Not that I go to formal church v often but when I do I dislike it, being in favour of quiet, peaceful, introspective worship. Last thing I want is someone with big ego giving it large.

However I really did like Bishop Curry's address at the Sussex's wedding albeit it a bit too long. I appreciated what he said - his message. Different circumstances to an ordinary church service of course, no-one was there to worship as such but to celebrate - and he was funny as well as insightful and kind.