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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: jakswan on December 20, 2018, 11:32:48 AM

Title: Stupid Woman
Post by: jakswan on December 20, 2018, 11:32:48 AM
So what does the Corbyn fan club on here think he said?
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
So what does the Corbyn fan club on here think he said?
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no, no, no ,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no there's no limit'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Roses on December 20, 2018, 11:47:50 AM
It appeared to me that he said, 'Stupid woman'.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
'Now is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this sun of York;'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:50:09 AM
'Time for bed!'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:51:37 AM
'Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc

Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, Dacron
Dien Bien Phu falls, "Rock Around the Clock"

Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland

Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Krushchev
Princess Grace, "Peyton Place", trouble in the Suez'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:52:03 AM
'Fork handles'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 11:54:16 AM
'Viking, North Utsire, South Utsire, Northeast Forties

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Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Udayana on December 20, 2018, 11:56:27 AM
To me it looked like "stupid woman". But, whatever, he has shown his own stupidity by mishandling the incident.

Even if he had said "stupid people", imo, he should have apologised unreservedly and that would have been that, not an ongoing distraction from important issues. However one of his flaws is an inability to acknowledge that he has made a mistake.
 
 
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: wigginhall on December 20, 2018, 11:56:48 AM
Madame, your peignoir may prove to be exculpatory or not, I cannot say.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 12:02:42 PM
'Now mirk December's dowie face
 Glours our the rigs wi' sour grimace,
 While, thro' his minimum of space,
 The bleer-ey'd sun
 Wi' blinkin light and stealing pace,
 His race doth run.'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: wigginhall on December 20, 2018, 12:06:16 PM
I thought that would be Burns, but it's Fergusson, and very good.  Corbyn has gone up in my estimation.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 12:07:45 PM
'Is Vic there?'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 20, 2018, 12:08:48 PM
'My! What big teeth you have!'
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: jakswan on December 20, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
To me it looked like "stupid woman". But, whatever, he has shown his own stupidity by mishandling the incident.

Even if he had said "stupid people", imo, he should have apologised unreservedly and that would have been that, not an ongoing distraction from important issues. However one of his flaws is an inability to acknowledge that he has made a mistake.

I agree, if he did actually say 'stupid woman', heat of the moment thing apologise and move on.

If he did say 'stupid woman' then lie in Parliament about it, resignation time! 
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: ad_orientem on December 20, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Roses on December 20, 2018, 01:32:02 PM
It is crazy that there is all this fuss about the 'stupid woman' comment, when there are much more important things the MPs should be concentrating on, like the Brexit debacle, and the danger the idiot across the pond is posing to this planet.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Anchorman on December 20, 2018, 02:30:42 PM
I thought that would be Burns, but it's Fergusson, and very good.  Corbyn has gone up in my estimation.



Burns called both Ferguson and Ramsay his "elder brother in poesy", and compared himself unfavourably to both.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 20, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
I agree, if he did actually say 'stupid woman', heat of the moment thing apologise and move on.

If he did say 'stupid woman' then lie in Parliament about it, resignation time!
After all the Tory lies which have gone Uncommented on......really?
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: jakswan on December 20, 2018, 03:09:23 PM
After all the Tory lies which have gone Uncommented on......really?

If you think a any MP has lied in Parliament bring it forward.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Robbie on December 20, 2018, 04:24:08 PM
Nothing to do with being a fan but I did look on youtube and it certainly seemed to me that he said, "Stupid people", not 'woman'.

Big deal. Not.

Haven't the media any other molehills out of which to make mountains?
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Harrowby Hall on December 20, 2018, 05:18:48 PM
I don't see what all the fuss is about.

I agree. He certainly appeared to be making a silent movement with his lips which appeared resemble the movements required had he said "stupid woman" or something similar out loud. But he did not say it out loud. Nothing has been recorded in Hansard. Therefore there is no official Parliamentary record of him having said anything.

He may well have thought that - have we reached the state where our thoughts are now being policed?

In any case, the comment - had he have made it - could conceivably be justified if Mrs May's rather childish pantomime intonement could also be considered to be "bring Parliament into disrepute".

Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Steve H on December 20, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
So what does the Corbyn fan club on here think he said?
If you watch the video, he's clearly saying "stupid people", because he closes his lips twice, which he wouldn't do saying "woman", but even if he had said "stupid woman", so what? She's a woman and she's stupid. If she was a man, he might have said "stupid man". Would he then be accused of misandry?
I think this whole nonsense should be called "Alloallogate".  https://youtu.be/NU8BcCbbJfo
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Steve H on December 20, 2018, 10:41:48 PM
It appeared to me that he said, 'Stupid woman'.
Wrong. See above.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Steve H on December 20, 2018, 10:43:07 PM
To me it looked like "stupid woman". But, whatever, he has shown his own stupidity by mishandling the incident.

Even if he had said "stupid people", imo, he should have apologised unreservedly and that would have been that, not an ongoing distraction from important issues. However one of his flaws is an inability to acknowledge that he has made a mistake.
What a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: King Oberon on December 21, 2018, 11:35:18 AM
I was more annoyed he wasn't more specific  :P

(Duck!)
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: jeremyp on December 21, 2018, 12:11:47 PM
I don't give a flying fuck what Corbyn said. Why is it that people are getting outraged by a couple of words that you have to lip read to understand when the political situation has real issues to get outraged about?

So Corbyn called May a stupid woman. So what? She is a woman and he certainly believes that the things she is doing as PM are stupid. I bet he calls her far worse things in private and I bet Theresa May calls him far worse things in private.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Steve H on December 21, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
He didn't say "stupid woman", and even if he had done, so fucking what? Can we please get back to debating things worth debating, instead of alloallogate?
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: jeremyp on December 21, 2018, 09:32:57 PM
If you watch the video, he's clearly saying "stupid people", because he closes his lips twice, which he wouldn't do saying "woman",
Wouldn't he? I can't say "woman without closing my lips twice, once on the "w" and once on the "m".

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but even if he had said "stupid woman", so what? She's a woman and she's stupid. If she was a man, he might have said "stupid man". Would he then be accused of misandry?
I think this whole nonsense should be called "Alloallogate".  https://youtu.be/NU8BcCbbJfo

I don't think she's stupid, but other than that, you hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Aruntraveller on December 21, 2018, 11:45:48 PM
I was more annoyed he wasn't more specific  :P

(Duck!)

When you say specific, did you have something like this in mind?

https://binged.it/2rMRE36
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Spud on December 22, 2018, 06:34:14 PM
He definitely said 'stupid people', so there are a lot of people who should be apologizing to him.
Title: Re: Stupid Woman
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 23, 2018, 08:09:32 AM
Dani Garavelli's take


https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/dani-garavelli-disgusted-by-confederacy-of-lip-readers-and-hand-wringers-1-4848062