Religion and Ethics Forum
Religion and Ethics Discussion => Philosophy, in all its guises. => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on December 26, 2018, 12:33:54 PM
-
What will happen in the next few months?
May secures parliamentary support for deal in February
Corbyn taken ill in march
April May heads off confidence vote by calling for Election
Corbyn announces he will not fight the election
Watson takes over as leader of the opposition
Labour majority of 30 seats.
-
Balls - JC4PM.
-
Balls - JC4PM.
gawdelpus. As well elect Glanda Mammal.
-
Balls - JC4PM.
I will not vote for any party that is not committed to keeping us in the EU (or taking us back in after March).
-
I will not vote for any party that is not committed to keeping us in the EU (or taking us back in after March).
Sadly neither the Tories or Labour are committed to keeping us in the EU. :(
-
Sadly neither the Tories or Labour are committed to keeping us in the EU. :(
...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.
-
...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.
Same here probably, although they wouldn't be our party of choice. We voted Lib Dem before they went down the tubes.
-
...so, since I'm never voting Lib Dem again after the great betrayal of May 2010, it must be the Greens next election.
They didn't betray anybody in 2010.
-
They didn't betray anybody in 2010.
Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.
-
Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
-
Clegg was a mug and Cameron enabler.
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.
-
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.
Agreed Ashdown initially thought it was against the Lib Dem grain. At the time, as someone who was a tactical voter and never thought the Lib Dems would go into a coalition, I would have preferred Clegg to have supported the tories on a bill by Bill basis. This would have given them more power over the tories and strangled Austerity IMO. Clegg was mugged by superior Tory oil.
-
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
What's hindsight got to do with it? He took his supposedly leftish party into coalition with the Tories.
Traditionally they are centre left. There was a financial crisis on and the country needed a government. It was an opportunity for the Lib Dems to actually get some things done - or at least that is what they thought. It's all very well sneering t them now, but they did at least try to do something constructive, instead of the juvenile Tory = evil crap.
-
Traditionally they are centre left. There was a financial crisis on and the country needed a government. It was an opportunity for the Lib Dems to actually get some things done - or at least that is what they thought. It's all very well sneering t them now, but they did at least try to do something constructive, instead of the juvenile Tory = evil crap.
And we are repenting for Cleggs haste in making sure there was a government at our leisure.
-
And we are repenting for Cleggs haste in making sure there was a government at our leisure.
As I said, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
-
As I said, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
No I have stated the preference I had prior to coalition. An arrangement that was time honoured and Cameron certainly deserved no better than Heath.
Clegg let me down.
-
No I have stated the preference I had prior to coalition.
Yeah, right.
An arrangement that was time honoured and Cameron certainly deserved no better than Heath.
Clegg let me down.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
-
Yeah, right.
I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
Prior to the coalition governments were maintained as pacts. It kept them on their metal. Heath did not get one even though he was in the midst of a governmental process. Cameron had been a mere PR for Carlton an asset stripping company involved in wrecking Regional TV.
At the very most Clegg should have supported Cameron on a confidence and supply arrangement.
-
Prior to the coalition governments were maintained as pacts. It kept them on their metal. Heath did not get one even though he was in the midst of a governmental process. Cameron had been a mere PR for Carlton an asset stripping company involved in wrecking Regional TV.
At the very most Clegg should have supported Cameron on a confidence and supply arrangement.
But the agreement they got put their people in government. A pact like the Lib-Lab pact of 1978-79 or the current one with the DUP does not get you ministers.