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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Anchorman on December 27, 2019, 10:51:40 PM

Title: No. Just NO.
Post by: Anchorman on December 27, 2019, 10:51:40 PM

 There are no words for this 'award'. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-knighthood-sir-new-years-honours-universal-credit-benefits-a9261581.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2F7ePIwSFcadic1eJghG0QE8BX9Orb1uOLoG6P1Mjr3aLGhH46gJ3yv1s#Echobox=1577486066

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Steve H on December 27, 2019, 10:59:10 PM

Universal Credit was actually quite a good idea in principle, but the way that heartless twunt introduced it was disastrous.

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Aruntraveller on December 27, 2019, 11:11:17 PM

So an award for heartless twuntery then.

No big fan of the honours system, but if we are to have them lets have them for ordinary people.

If you are a sports star, actor, singer, politician, business person etc.....then you will have had other accolades. Not to mention financial rewards.

Let the unheard of be the recipients if we must use such a quaint or antiquated (depending on your pov) system.

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2019, 11:17:53 PM

what the fuck is wrong with you people ?

nobody owes you anything . Make your own way in life . If you can't , bad luck . No body helped me .


the grenade has gone off , tell me why I'm wrong

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2019, 11:28:31 PM

actually please don't . I despise you already . ::)

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Aruntraveller on December 28, 2019, 08:24:57 AM

Quote

the grenade has gone off , tell me why I'm wrong

I would try if I knew what the fuck you were talking about.  :P

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: jeremyp on December 28, 2019, 09:14:08 AM

Quote from: Walter on December 27, 2019, 11:17:53 PM

what the fuck is wrong with you people ?

nobody owes you anything . Make your own way in life . If you can't , bad luck . No body helped me .


the grenade has gone off , tell me why I'm wrong

Have you ever used the NHS? Did you go through the British state education system? 

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Enki on December 28, 2019, 11:57:10 AM

Never liked it.  Awards to the undeserving simply taints the awards to the deserving. In my eyes the Honours System is simply an archaic system widely open to corruption and bias and long past its sell by date. I would abolish it altogether.

As I would with the House of Lords incidentally, replacing it with a totally elected body.

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Anchorman on December 28, 2019, 12:06:18 PM

Quote from: enki on December 28, 2019, 11:57:10 AM

Never liked it.  Awards to the undeserving simply taints the awards to the deserving. In my eyes the Honours System is simply an archaic system widely open to corruption and bias and long past its sell by date. I would abolish it altogether.

As I would with the House of Lords incidentally, replacing it with a totally elected body.

   


I can see the place for an egalitarian honours system similar to that of France.
The insane, anachronistic mwss of the various honours and sub-categories thereof in britain demean the reason for the honour.

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 28, 2019, 06:40:55 PM

What a screw up!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50929543

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Anchorman on December 30, 2019, 09:23:41 AM

 Pretty good article from Ruth Wishart.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18127369.knighthood-iain-duncan-smith-insult-honour/?fbclid=IwAR2RvLWWHnXBag6GVhCAj6hXbE4uB71wWxLoB7IXGxqOH_gUzY1Xc17WzNQ

Title: Re: No. Just NO.
Post by: Steve H on January 01, 2020, 07:40:28 PM

My MP. a puce-faced tory brextremist oaf called Mike Penning, got a knighthood in 2017. He was a junior minister for something or other, and did absolutely nothing worthy of an honour. I suspect that he got it as a consolation prize: he was kicked back on to the back benches at about the same time.