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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Philosophy, in all its guises. => Topic started by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 17, 2020, 09:42:52 AM

Title: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 17, 2020, 09:42:52 AM
Something Dawkins said as a knockdown argument against God. Since we are now to contemplate whole universes just being forever. How does this Dawkinism stack up in this brave no world?
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Owlswing on August 17, 2020, 09:57:15 AM

Something Dawkins said as a knockdown argument against God. Since we are now to contemplate whole universes just being forever. How does this Dawkinism stack up in this brave no world?


Just how many more ways are you going to find to ask the same question in order to get the same answers that you then choose to ignore and then post yet another version of the same damned stupid question?

On this subject, you are becoming a crashing bore and in doing so making this Forum boring too!
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: jeremyp on August 17, 2020, 10:13:38 AM
Something Dawkins said as a knockdown argument against God. Since we are now to contemplate whole universes just being forever. How does this Dawkinism stack up in this brave no world?

I tell you what, instead of creating multiple threads to rehash the same ideas, why not just concentrate on coming up with one good argument that shows that a god - any god - exists. Then we'll discuss that.
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 17, 2020, 08:54:47 PM
I tell you what, instead of creating multiple threads to rehash the same ideas, why not just concentrate on coming up with one good argument that shows that a god - any god - exists. Then we'll discuss that.
You can pretend that atheists never make assertions as long as you like Jeremy but the parade is i'm afraid passing by.
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 17, 2020, 08:57:42 PM
You can pretend that atheists never make assertions as long as you like Jeremy but the parade is i'm afraid passing by.
So the 7 year old child you said needed to lick your lollipop? Did he pass you by?
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: jeremyp on August 17, 2020, 09:41:47 PM
You can pretend that atheists never make assertions as long as you like Jeremy but the parade is i'm afraid passing by.

I assert that you will never come up with a single good argument for why we should believe there is a god.

Prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Roses on August 18, 2020, 08:46:03 AM
I assert that you will never come up with a single good argument for why we should believe there is a god.

Prove me wrong.

Vlad will prove you right with each post he makes. ::)
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: jeremyp on August 18, 2020, 09:46:13 AM
Vlad will prove you right with each post he makes. ::)
Well technically no. In order to be sure he will never come up with a proof we need to wait until he is dead..
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Owlswing on August 18, 2020, 03:35:18 PM


Well technically no. In order too be sure he will never come up with a proof we need to wait until he is dead..


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Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 18, 2020, 03:49:11 PM
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Don’t worry........i’m Sure they would have let it stand.
Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Owlswing on August 18, 2020, 05:21:47 PM

Don’t worry........I’m sure they would have let it stand.


Your arrogance at thinking you can have any idea of what I originally wrote, whilst being expected, does you no credit whatsoever! Let me assure you, had your comment been accurate it would not have been necessary to delete it!

I shall now return to ignoring you - it was only a moment in which I forgot who I was writing about instead of thinking about who I was writing to that made me write the deleted post in the first place!

Title: Re: Complexity doesn’t just arise.
Post by: Outrider on August 24, 2020, 11:10:51 AM
Something Dawkins said as a knockdown argument against God. Since we are now to contemplate whole universes just being forever. How does this Dawkinism stack up in this brave no world?

Firstly, it didn't arise - it has no start, it doesn't spontaneously arrive out of nowhere or nothing, there is no point at which it's not there.

Secondly, that it's there does not mean that it's necessarily particularly complex at all points - the complexity may arise (slowly) in an otherwise simple background.

O.