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General Category => Sports, Hobbies & Interests => Topic started by: jeremyp on June 23, 2021, 10:15:25 AM
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Now that Scotland is out and England will almost certainly follow after their next match, we can all relax and start enjoying the Euros - except the Welsh of course.
Any stand out moments for anybody so far?
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Now that Scotland is out and England will almost certainly follow after their next match, we can all relax and start enjoying the Euros - except the Welsh of course.
Any stand out moments for anybody so far?
The Schick goal, and the 1 minutes applause for Eriksen,
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The Schick goal, and the 1 minutes applause for Eriksen,
Also add in the Netherlands/Ukraine game and the Germany/Portugal game.
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Well done to England, though I was in the main watching Federer at Wimbledon
Very open now . All teams from the Group of Death now out.
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It's fucking coming home lads!
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It's fucking coming home lads!
In the sense that the final is at Wembley? ;D
I think it's a clear path to the final now for England, no-one left in that side of the draw should worry them (but don't forget Iceland last time out!) but I can't see a scenario where England have enough guile and nous to beat one of Italy, Belgium or Spain if they get to the final. I shall be ardently supporting Switzerland for the next week or so, personally.
O.
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In the sense that the final is at Wembley? ;D
I think it's a clear path to the final now for England, no-one left in that side of the draw should worry them (but don't forget Iceland last time out!) but I can't see a scenario where England have enough guile and nous to beat one of Italy, Belgium or Spain if they get to the final. I shall be ardently supporting Switzerland for the next week or so, personally.
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I think they could beat Spain but Italy and Belgium are both too good. However, I fully expect us to screw it up before then.
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I think they could beat Spain but Italy and Belgium are both too good. However, I fully expect us to screw it up before then.
I think they can beat Spain and Italy, remember if they make the final they will be playing at home. I think the Belgians would be tough but they need De Bruyne to be fit.
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However, I fully expect us to screw it up before then.
I'm thankful that this prediction has come from you Jeremy, given the accuracy of your earlier one:
'Now that Scotland is out and England will almost certainly follow after their next match, we can all relax and start enjoying the Euros - except the Welsh of course.'
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I'm thankful that this prediction has come from you Jeremy, given the accuracy of your earlier one:
'Now that Scotland is out and England will almost certainly follow after their next match, we can all relax and start enjoying the Euros - except the Welsh of course.'
Yeah, I got that completely wrong. However, considering we've never beaten Germany in the knockout stage of a competition, the precedents were in my favour.
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Fuck me! We were prime Italy or Germany today.
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Fuck me! We were prime Italy or Germany today.
Excellent performance.
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A good result for Spain against Italy on Tuesday would be a nice bonus heading into Wednesday's match against Denmark - but for Denmark too I suppose.
O.
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Fine banter
https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1412494756475715588?s=08
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Given Spain's display last night, I think the best outcome as far as England are concerned is that the game went to extra time. Getting the job done in 90 minutes against Denmark would give England their best chance, but Italy are going to be a tough ask.
Seeing where they made their chances against Spain, though, I think England's more cautious approach will leave fewer holes at the back, but I don't know that will help because I can't see them having the same success at keeping the ball as Spain did.
That said, they've still got to get past Denmark. Here's hoping...
O.
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I have every hope for England, and so far I've been pretty impressed. One word of warning though, we haven't yet seen how England would react if they go a goal down, especially early in the game. If they do actually get to the final, and Italy score first, they will undoubtedly slow the game down and become defensive. Italy are past masters of this.
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I have every hope for England, and so far I've been pretty impressed. One word of warning though, we haven't yet seen how England would react if they go a goal down, especially early in the game. If they do actually get to the final, and Italy score first, they will undoubtedly slow the game down and become defensive. Italy are past masters of this.
To be fair it's s bit difficult to deal with going a goal behind when you have not conceded a goal in 5 games. The group games they looked a bit sluggish with only 2 goals but the knock out stages have seen them get better and better. Part of me wants the fairytale for Denmark but if England get through, I hope they win. I think they should but it will be huge pressure on them, and Italy have an astounding unbeaten run.
In addition, Italy are holders of the Unofficial Football World Championships and its spinoffs
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships
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To be fair it's s bit difficult to deal with going a goal behind when you have not conceded a goal in 5 games. The group games they looked a bit sluggish with only 2 goals but the knock out stages have seen them get better and better. Part of me wants the fairytale for Denmark but if England get through, I hope they win. I think they should but it will be huge pressure on them, and Italy have an astounding unbeaten run.
In addition, Italy are holders of the Unofficial Football World Championships and its spinoffs
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships
I get what you mean about the sluggishness in the group stage, but I'm not entirely sure that's not just Southgate playing tournament football; in the group stages the emphasis is on not losing, building up that confidence, and then in the knock-out stages it's about trying to conserve energy by avoiding extra-time and the nervousness of penalties.
O.
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I have every hope for England, and so far I've been pretty impressed. One word of warning though, we haven't yet seen how England would react if they go a goal down, especially early in the game. If they do actually get to the final, and Italy score first, they will undoubtedly slow the game down and become defensive. Italy are past masters of this.
Well, we are going to find out now. What a goal!
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And what a response!
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England deserve to win
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Definitely exciting enough to keep me awake and listening to it all on FiveLive!!
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An apparent Lib Dem, a certain dangerous offensive fuckwit
https://twitter.com/jwahjwah/status/1412931098145873932?s=19
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Pity that some fan(s) did this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57763001
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57779541
Some Danish fans were attacked by England supporters! I hope they catch those filthy sewer rats and send them down. >:(
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Pity that some fan(s) did this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57763001
The laser thing was stupid but there's no evidence it put the goalie off. As for booing. Fans have always done that. Try tobunsettle the opposition. Nothing wrong with that.
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I think the way some English fans have behaved is disgusting, it would serve them right if their team, lost.
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I think the way some English fans have behaved is disgusting, it would serve them right if their team, lost.
Yes and no.
At a time when Southgate has done much to improve the way the English team is perceived, some of the supporters have not behaved at their best. The laser pen thing was potentially dangerous. The booing was disheartening. I don't buy the argument that other supporters have always done that.
In other words it would have been a pleasant change if the supporters had followed the lead of Southgate and the team and had actually risen above the pack.
Be better than them.
Some hope with some England supporters.
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I think the way some English fans have behaved is disgusting, it would serve them right if their team, lost.
https://twitter.com/IronsSparky/status/1413549634346172422?s=19
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Pity that some fan(s) did this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57763001
The laser pointer thing was one "fan". That fan needs to be found and needs to experience some sort of punishment.
The national anthem thing was a lot of fans, but it's hardly unusual, sadly. How is a national football authority supposed to stop it?
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The laser pointer thing was one "fan". That fan needs to be found and needs to experience some sort of punishment.
The national anthem thing was a lot of fans, but it's hardly unusual, sadly. How is a national football authority supposed to stop it?
I don't really give a shit about the national anthem pish but can you say there was only one fan involvrd in the laser thing? It's one of the reasons I used the bracket here as I could not rule out more than one fan passing it rpund,or mord than one laser pen, or one fan bringing it in and another fan using it.
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I don't really give a shit about the national anthem push but can you say there was only one fan involvrd in the laser thing?
One laser pointer = one person holding it. Having a laser pointer isn't problematic in itself any more than me having a set of sharp knives is problematic as long as I don't try to stick them in people. It's the person who tried to incapacitate Casper Schmeichel with a laser pointer that's the problem.
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One laser pointer = one person holding it. Having a laser pointer isn't problematic in itself any more than me having a set of sharp knives is problematic as long as I don't try to stick them in people. It's the person who tried to incapacitate Casper Schmeichel with a laser pointer that's the problem.
It's impossible for it to be passed about? It's impossible for it to brought in by one person and given to another to use? The possibility of it being 1 fan was why I used brackets.
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Matchday. Already well excited. I'm probably going to become more and more unbearable the closer we get to kickoff and the more beer I've drunk. Might have Three Lions, Vindaloo, World In Motion and Sweet Caroline playing on a loop for the rest of the day. LOL!
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Apparently, the South American equivalent of the Euro is the Copa America, and it's just been won by Argentina. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/argentina-win-copa-america-to-end-lionel-messi-s-long-wait-for-major-title/ar-AAM0Wuz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
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Matchday. Already well excited. I'm probably going to become more and more unbearable the closer we get to kickoff and the more beer I've drunk. Might have Three Lions, Vindaloo, World In Motion and Sweet Caroline playing on a loop for the rest of the day. LOL!
Perfectly understandable.
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My son what's apped me this, and this is one version I like:
Our father, who art in Wembley,
Southgate be thy name.
The cup will come,
Kane's work will be done,
In London as it was in Rome.
Give us this day our daily pint
And forgive Sterling's offside trespasses
As we forgive those who bet against us.
Lead us not into under-achievement
But deliver us the title.
For football's coming home.
The history and the glory,
Forever and ever,
Our men.
;D ;D
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Only one team in this just now. Much better Kane performance.
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Half time, and looking good so far - England 1, Italy 0.
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Hmm....
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/carnage-fights-wembley-bottles-leicester-square-b945187.html
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From 30 minutes in the 1st half, England have forgotten they are at home.
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Did Southgate get Starmer to give the half time talk?
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That should be a sending off. L
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But then both Henderson and Maguire attempting to cheat
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BUGGERYBOLLOCKS! >:(
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Why didn't Sterling and Grealish take a penalty?
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Living in Finland, everyone seems to want England to lose for some reason. Pub full of Italy "fans". Like fucking Jocks, supported God knows how many teams in this fucking tournament. Can fuck off. Drunken offerred them all out. Not one bit. Fuckers all of them.
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Poor penaties btw.
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I listened all the way through on Five Live, but have to say, I found the whole thing rather boring except for the first few minutes!
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That should be a sending off. L
Jorginho on Grealish, or Chiellini on Sako? Jorginho I agree, Chiellini's looked worse but I think it was just a yellow.
Which was characteristic of Italy's cynicism - as they have always done, they did as much as they needed, skirted the line and then when they got booked either subbed off or backed off half a step. They played the ref better than England did, which was the difference between the teams in the end.
Outstanding performance by a relatively young England team through the tournament, and bodes well for the World Cup next year.
O.
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Defintely putting pineapple on all my bloody pizzas from now on.
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Defintely putting pineapple on all my bloody pizzas from now on.
Does this mean something in the footballing world, cos I'm not getting the reference :-\
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Defintely putting pineapple on all my bloody pizzas from now on.
"......there's no place like Rome..."
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Does this mean something in the footballing world, cos I'm not getting the reference :-\
The Iltalian fans had a banner which read "Stop putting pineapple on pizza".
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The Iltalian fans had a banner which read "Stop putting pineapple on pizza".
Oh, I see ;D
Mind you, generally I'd be with them on that particular culinary abomination!
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Gary Neville, the former England international right-back and pundit, on Sky Sports News this morning:
"The taking of the knee was ridiculed by our top-ranking government officials. So when we get racist abuse after a football match at the end of a tournament, I expect it. Because it exists, and it’s actually promoted by the prime minister. I knew as soon as Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Bukayo Saka missed last night, I knew we would be waking up this morning to stories of racist abuse."
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Gary Neville, the former England international right-back and pundit, on Sky Sports News this morning:
"The taking of the knee was ridiculed by our top-ranking government officials. So when we get racist abuse after a football match at the end of a tournament, I expect it. Because it exists, and it’s actually promoted by the prime minister. I knew as soon as Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Bukayo Saka missed last night, I knew we would be waking up this morning to stories of racist abuse."
Just posted this elsewhere myself with my added thoughts on Johnson:
Boris Johnson through and through. As with Covid he'll take the applause when things go right but deny all responsibility when things go wrong. Unlike Gareth Southgate who has shown what it is to be a true leader.
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Penalties are a horrible way to decide the outcome of a game. Incredible pressure on a goalie and a handful of players. Bukayo Saka was distraught and comforted by Southgate who knew just what he was experiencing. At 19yrs old Saka was very courageous to step-up to the plate.
Jordan Pickford made two wonderful saves.
The England lads can hold their heads high having given some great performances during the tournament.
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Gary Neville, the former England international right-back and pundit, on Sky Sports News this morning:
"The taking of the knee was ridiculed by our top-ranking government officials. So when we get racist abuse after a football match at the end of a tournament, I expect it. Because it exists, and it’s actually promoted by the prime minister. I knew as soon as Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho and Bukayo Saka missed last night, I knew we would be waking up this morning to stories of racist abuse."
Why more folk haven't seen through this self centred hypocrite beats me.
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Gary Neville, the former England international right-back and pundit, on Sky Sports News this morning:
"The taking of the knee was ridiculed by our top-ranking government officials
Can you say which ones? I shall write to my MP and express my condemnation of such idiocy.
What do shadow ministers and other Party members have to say? Are they quoted too?
The so-called security guards seem to have been easily intimidated by thugs.
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Can you say which ones? I shall write to my MP and express my condemnation of such idiocy.
What do shadow ministers and other Party members have to say? Are they quoted too?
The so-called security guards seem to have been easily intimidated by thugs.
You can start with Pritti Patel:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-taking-knee-boo-england-b1865409.html
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Can you say which ones? I shall write to my MP and express my condemnation of such idiocy.
What do shadow ministers and other Party members have to say? Are they quoted too?
The so-called security guards seem to have been easily intimidated by thugs.
Boris Johnson, Priti Patel.
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I had no interest in watching the match last night. I was shocked to learn on the news this morning of the awful racist abuse directed at the three England players who failed to score in the penalty shoot out. >:( The idiot fans without tickets who tried to storm the football ground hurting some police officers in the process, should be banned from ever attending any match again, imo. >:(
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I had no interest in watching the match last night. I was shocked to learn on the news this morning of the awful racist abuse directed at the three England players who failed to score in the penalty shoot out. >:( The idiot fans without tickets who tried to storm the football ground hurting some police officers in the process, should be banned from ever attending any match again, imo. >:(
Pity that racism was promoted by the PM and the Home Secretary
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You can start with Pritti Patel:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-taking-knee-boo-england-b1865409.html
Sayeeda Warsi in reply to Priti Patel tweet condemning the racism
'Priti -we as govt, as @Conservatives need to think about our role in feeding this culture in our country
If we “whistle” & the”dog” reacts we cant be shocked if it barks &bites
It’s time to stop the culture wars that are feeding division
Dog whistles win votes but destroy nations'
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You can start with Pritti Patel:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-taking-knee-boo-england-b1865409.html
Thank you. I have e-mailed MP. The sooner that Priti Patel is side-tracked somewhere, the better, say I.
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Thank you. I have e-mailed MP. The sooner that Priti Patel is side-tracked somewhere, the better, say I.
Can you do Johnson as well?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/07/boris-johnson-refuses-to-condemn-fans-booing-england-taking-the-knee
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Can you do Johnson as well?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/07/boris-johnson-refuses-to-condemn-fans-booing-england-taking-the-knee
I have looked at the article but as it was a spokesman for the PM, not the PM himself, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Reply from MP - 'Noted D'
There never will of course be a PM who is above criticism and for the mmoment, I think it's better the devl you know ...
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I have looked at the article but as it was a spokesman for the PM, not the PM himself, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Reply from MP - 'Noted D'
There never will of course be a PM who is above criticism and for the mmoment, I think it's better the devl you know ...
He's a lying incompetent racist corrupt thug.
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Thanks to Natalie Elphicke, Boris and pretty and the Spectator the notion of the common englishman as a partner in the Great tory reset has been scorched. The tories at last admitted because they couldn't eventually keep it in that the Englishman is uncouth and unwashed fodder.
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Thanks to Natalie Elphicke, Boris and pretty and the Spectator the notion of the common englishman as a partner in the Great tory reset has been scorched. The tories at last admitted because they couldn't eventually keep it in that the Englishman is uncouth and unwashed fodder.
Is there a translation for that gobbledegook? ::)
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Is there a translation for that gobbledegook? ::)
I can never understand a word he says either. It could be a deliberate tactic in order to hide underlying bollocks.
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I think I'm actually quite pleased we failed to win. Had we done so, I think there would have been a "bread and circuses" effect.
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I think I'm actually quite pleased we failed to win. Had we done so, I think there would have been a "bread and circuses" effect.
I agree. I was dreading us winning. Which is a shame for the team because I would have liked them to win. For the country - not so much.
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I agree. I was dreading us winning. Which is a shame for the team because I would have liked them to win. For the country - not so much.
I was ambivalent, domestic violence goes up more with defeats than victories but both increase it. What the better outcome depends on perspective.
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I think I'm actually quite pleased we failed to win. Had we done so, I think there would have been a "bread and circuses" effect.
Boooo!