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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2021, 05:47:26 PM

Title: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2021, 05:47:26 PM

Had to shorten title but agree.



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/29/scottish-parliament-queens-consent-rule
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Gordon on July 29, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
Agree - this nonsense needs to stop (along with the monarchy itself).
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Anchorman on July 29, 2021, 07:49:03 PM
Time auld Lizzie not the second got her marching orders and took her hapless brood with her.
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2021, 08:14:06 PM
Pity the SNP govt are so shite on this.
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Gordon on July 29, 2021, 08:22:07 PM
The weegingerdug has a view on this.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Gordon on July 29, 2021, 08:24:19 PM
Pity the SNP govt are so shite on this.

Although they are obliged to comply with this process, they Scottish Government should at least let us know when the royal parasites are stacking the deck in their own favour.
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Anchorman on July 29, 2021, 08:55:22 PM
The weegingerdug has a view on this.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/
 


Was goona post this:
Pual at his best.
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: jeremyp on July 29, 2021, 08:59:45 PM
I'm honestly amazed that this is even a thing. I could understand BJ kow-towing to the Royals, but not the Scottish government.

Edit: I'm also somewhat disappointed that the Royals would seek to gain such advantage

Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Gordon on July 29, 2021, 09:07:06 PM
I'm honestly amazed that this is even a thing. I could understand BJ kow-towing to the Royals, but not the Scottish government.

From what I've read the SG have no choice: they are legally required to comply.

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Scottish ministers were legally required under legislation passed by Westminster to allow the Queen to scrutinise and change bills in advance.


The secrecy aspect is also of concern.

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The Scottish government is refusing to publish details about the Queen’s secret lobbying of ministers because it would undermine “the appearance of political neutrality” that the monarch adopts in public.


Both quotes from;

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/29/scottish-government-refuses-to-publish-details-about-queens-secret-lobbying
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2021, 09:40:23 PM
From what I've read the SG have no choice: they are legally required to comply.
 

The secrecy aspect is also of concern.


Both quotes from;

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/29/scottish-government-refuses-to-publish-details-about-queens-secret-lobbying
The Scottish govt are cowards.
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Gordon on July 29, 2021, 09:57:56 PM
The Scottish govt are cowards.

They are indeed.

The SG should tell the Scottish electorate the details of what the monarchy are insisting on by way of changes to planned legislation, and where the SG feel that they cannot agree with the requested changes then they should tell us why they are not prepared to accede to requests from the monarchy and that, therefore, the legislation cannot then pass.

For this arcane nonsense to end the Scottish electorate need to know when the privilege card is being played in order that political pressure can be exerted to get rid: no wonder they try to keep it secret!     
Title: Re: Scottish parliament must take stand against the farcical Queen’s consent ruling
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 29, 2021, 10:00:27 PM
I'm honestly amazed that this is even a thing. I could understand BJ kow-towing to the Royals, but not the Scottish government.

Edit: I'm also somewhat disappointed that the Royals would seek to gain such advantage
Why are you disappointed? The whole idea of 'being royal' is seeking to get advantage.