Religion and Ethics Forum
General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on February 12, 2023, 09:40:47 AM
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It's going to be interesting to see how this story develops. Even previously loyal SNP MSPs have been muttering if the road goes through their consituency/electoral area.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-64581289
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Meanwhile in Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64640215
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Meanwhile in Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64640215
Meanwhile in Bristol...
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-bus-gate-plan-main-7963687
It will not have the hoped for effect on traffic since there is another road parallel to this on the other side of the river and that road will take all the traffic that would otherwise go through the bus gate. This road will therefore be a permanent traffic jam with cars sitting there idling their engines and polluting the city centre. How do I know that? Because that is what we have got now due to road works.
The serious point is that cancelling road projects is not necessarily going to improve the environment if the alternative is massive traffic jams.
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The serious point is that cancelling road projects is not necessarily going to improve the environment if the alternative is massive traffic jams.
Building more roads means more people use more cars.
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
There has been a survey that found out if bikes are given a separated path to cycle on, that also gives people more choice to drive (and use more cars etc).
IIRC, that was what happened in Stevenage. So unfortunately, even building cycle paths wouldn't help the environment.
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(Found it quicker than I'd expected.) https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/sep/19/britains-1960s-cycling-revolution-flopped-stevenage (https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/sep/19/britains-1960s-cycling-revolution-flopped-stevenage)
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Building more roads means more people use more cars.
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/wuwt-traffic-induced-demand/
There has been a survey that found out if bikes are given a separated path to cycle on, that also gives people more choice to drive (and use more cars etc).
IIRC, that was what happened in Stevenage. So unfortunately, even building cycle paths wouldn't help the environment.
I don't really believe that in the general case. It assumes that there is an infinite number of cars.
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I don't really believe that in the general case. It assumes that there is an infinite number of cars.
I've only skimmed through this, but it does seem to make the point. https://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/blog/traffic-congestion-problems-and-solutions/ (https://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/blog/traffic-congestion-problems-and-solutions/)The USDOT found that between 1980 and 2021, the U.S. built more than 870,000 lane miles of highway, yet pre-COVID-19 congestion was worse than it was in the early 1980s.
The exec summary suggests more buses for Cambridge; it's massively unlikely that Cambs would have more roads.; a bit of history and geography (I'm a bit of a fan of their guided buses and park and ride scheme.)
There could be an argument about cars increasing on technology and economics improvements. But it doubt a university would have missed that in their survey.
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P.S.
.https://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/blog/traffic-congestion-problems-and-solutions/ (https://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/blog/traffic-congestion-problems-and-solutions/The)
More sources at the bottom that might be quite interesting.The Fourth Regional Plan, “Reduce Highway Congestion Without Adding New Lanes” (http://fourthplan.org/action/highway-congestion)
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Streetsblog, “Three Reasons Why Congestion Decreases When Cities ‘Delete’ Road Lanes” (https://cal.streetsblog.org/2022/05/13/three-reasons-why-congestion-decreases-when-cities-delete-road-lanes/)