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Title: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 02:30:59 PM

Dear dog, he's 86. Let the poor man retire like any normal institution (note the US presidency is excluded)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65821047
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: ProfessorDavey on June 07, 2023, 05:50:44 PM
Quote from: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 02:30:59 PM
Dear dog, he's 86. Let the poor man retire like any normal institution (note the US presidency is excluded)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65821047
It's not as if there isn't a precedent - I get that it would have been hard for the previous pope to make the decision to retire as no pope had done it for ever (well actually since 1415). But now that the precedence has been set, surely it must be straightforward for him to say 'I'm too old, time for a new guy'.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on June 07, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: ProfessorDavey on June 07, 2023, 05:50:44 PM
It's not as if there isn't a precedent - I get that it would have been hard for the previous pope to make the decision to retire as no pope had done it for ever (well actually since 1415). But now that the precedence has been set, surely it must be straightforward for him to say 'I'm too old, time for a new guy'.
To think, An American pontiff could have a career as Pope , retire and stand for the presidency.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Nearly Sane on June 07, 2023, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: Walt Zingmatilder on June 07, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
To think, An American pontiff could have a career as Pope , retire and stand for the presidency.
See OP
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Steve H on June 07, 2023, 09:12:32 PM
Boris Johnson is qualified to stand for the Presidency.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: ProfessorDavey on June 09, 2023, 12:58:06 PM
Quote from: Walt Zingmatilder on June 07, 2023, 07:29:41 PM
To think, An American pontiff could have a career as Pope , retire and stand for the presidency.
Not sure the RCC would countenance this (I know we are talking theoretically, as I think the RCC do not allow any of their ordained clergy from holding any political office, on the basis that they should only have allegiance to the Holy See.

This is why senior RCC cardinals, archbishops etc have never accepted peerages even once they'd left office as they remain RCC ordained priests.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: jeremyp on June 09, 2023, 01:28:54 PM
Quote from: SteveH on June 07, 2023, 09:12:32 PM
Boris Johnson is qualified to stand for the Presidency.

Afraid not. He has doesn't have the residency requirement (fourteen years resident in the USA).

Also, he's not an American citizen.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Steve H on August 17, 2023, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: jeremyp on June 09, 2023, 01:28:54 PM
Afraid not. He has doesn't have the residency requirement (fourteen years resident in the USA).

Also, he's not an American citizen.
I think he had dual British and American citizenship.
{edit} Apparently, he renounced his American citizenship in 2017, so President Johnson will not be inflicted on the world.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Steve H on August 17, 2023, 09:34:19 AM
Abdominus vobiscum.
Title: Re: Pope Francis, 86, to have abdominal surgery
Post by: Steve H on August 20, 2023, 06:52:41 PM
The papacy is a branch of showbiz, and showbiz people never retire.