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Religion and Ethics Discussion => Theism and Atheism => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on August 09, 2024, 12:05:32 PM

Title: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 09, 2024, 12:05:32 PM
 'Nature is My God'

No reason why not, I suppose

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/netflix/environmentalist-swears-jurors-oath-on-river-water-instead-of-holy-book-nature-is-my-god/ar-AA1oalO9
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 11, 2024, 08:59:33 AM
'Nature is My God'

No reason why not, I suppose

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/netflix/environmentalist-swears-jurors-oath-on-river-water-instead-of-holy-book-nature-is-my-god/ar-AA1oalO9
His god is definitely one of pain and torture.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Maeght on August 11, 2024, 02:17:59 PM
His god is definitely one of pain and torture.

But has no ability to prevent that.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 11, 2024, 07:24:31 PM
But has no ability to prevent that.
Then we are entitled to ask why call it a god or worship it?
I take it that you think death and pain inevitably occur in nature.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Maeght on August 11, 2024, 09:08:32 PM
Then we are entitled to ask why call it a god or worship it?
I take it that you think death and pain inevitably occur in nature.

Of course I do. And yes you are entitled to ask him that.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Steve H on August 12, 2024, 06:52:48 AM
Oaths should be scrapped altogether, and everyone required to affirm.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: splashscuba on August 13, 2024, 01:14:20 PM
Then we are entitled to ask why call it a god or worship it?
Of course you are. Fill your boots.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 13, 2024, 01:38:28 PM
Oaths should be scrapped altogether, and everyone required to affirm.
Agree
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 13, 2024, 02:50:59 PM
Of course you are. Fill your boots.
I mean in the sense it has now power or control over what happens . If you can worship that is dubious to call it a god is not to understand the concept.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 13, 2024, 03:24:40 PM
I mean in the sense it has now power or control over what happens . If you can worship that is dubious to call it a god is not to understand the concept.
I think you mean intentional power or control here?
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: jeremyp on August 13, 2024, 03:40:04 PM
I mean in the sense it has now power or control over what happens . If you can worship that is dubious to call it a god is not to understand the concept.
Can you demonstrate any power or control your god has over current events? Please give recent examples.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 13, 2024, 06:44:29 PM
I think you mean intentional power or control here?
Do you mean homeostasis? That would make your central heating system a god wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 13, 2024, 06:47:09 PM
Can you demonstrate any power or control your god has over current events? Please give recent examples.
Only as the necessary entity at the end of contingent hierarchies.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: splashscuba on August 13, 2024, 08:45:27 PM
I mean in the sense it has now power or control over what happens . If you can worship that is dubious to call it a god is not to understand the concept.
Whats to understand. People make gods.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Nearly Sane on August 13, 2024, 11:05:09 PM
Do you mean homeostasis? That would make your central heating system a god wouldn't it?
Well, your contradiction means that
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 14, 2024, 06:36:13 AM
Whats to understand. People make gods.
Positive assertion. Feel free to justify.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: Walt Zingmatilder on August 14, 2024, 06:37:09 AM
Well, your contradiction means that
Anyone.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: splashscuba on August 14, 2024, 07:41:22 AM
Positive assertion. Feel free to justify.
Yep. Nah I'm good.
Title: Re: Environmentalist Swears Juror's Oath on River Water Instead of Holy Book:
Post by: jeremyp on August 14, 2024, 11:13:28 AM
Only as the necessary entity at the end of contingent hierarchies.

I asked for a demonstration that God has power and control over events, not that God exists*.

* Not that you ever demonstrated that either.