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General Category => Politics & Current Affairs => Topic started by: jeremyp on October 01, 2024, 04:57:32 PM

Title: I've got a tip for you. Yes, you.
Post by: jeremyp on October 01, 2024, 04:57:32 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czj9mxnyezdo

It is now the law that workers will receive the tips from customers. Surely that was always the case, you say. Apparently not.

I think this is a good move. If I leave a tip, it is for the person who served me, not the owner of the business.
Title: Re: I've got a tip for you. Yes, you.
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 01, 2024, 05:11:40 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czj9mxnyezdo

It is now the law that workers will receive the tips from customers. Surely that was always the case, you say. Apparently not.

I think this is a good move. If I leave a tip, it is for the person who served me, not the owner of the business.
To be fair a lot of businesses have done this for a while but it's interesting that even with attempts by hospitality to have a set of guidelines to ensure this it has needed legislation.

At least it's far from the approach in the US where tips are there instead of a decent rate of pay.
Title: Re: I've got a tip for you. Yes, you.
Post by: Harrowby Hall on October 03, 2024, 05:31:42 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czj9mxnyezdo

It is now the law that workers will receive the tips from customers. Surely that was always the case, you say. Apparently not.

I think this is a good move. If I leave a tip, it is for the person who served me, not the owner of the business.

When you visit a restaurant with whom do you form a contract? Not with the person who serves you.
And who is resposible for your greatest pleasure and satisfaction? Not the person who served you.

If you leave a tip then surely it should be shared with all the people involved in your experience - the cooks, the cleaners ... not just the person who placed it in front of you. Do you give shop assistants a tip when they give you good service? Why not?

Title: Re: I've got a tip for you. Yes, you.
Post by: Outrider on October 03, 2024, 05:42:46 PM
When you visit a restaurant with whom do you form a contract? Not with the person who serves you.
And who is resposible for your greatest pleasure and satisfaction? Not the person who served you.

If you leave a tip then surely it should be shared with all the people involved in your experience - the cooks, the cleaners ... not just the person who placed it in front of you. Do you give shop assistants a tip when they give you good service? Why not?

I have some sympathy with that viewpoint - my brother has spent much of his life behind the scenes in kitchens. However, his take on this is that you pay for the meal, you tip for the service, and the bulk of the service is from the customer-facing element. To his mind, whilst the kitchen staff work hard, they don't have to face up to the obnoxious, self-important customers, and the tips are a sort of a counterweight to that.

I think a better system for that would be if we were all just nicer people to our wait-staff...

O.
Title: Re: I've got a tip for you. Yes, you.
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 03, 2024, 07:45:10 PM
When you visit a restaurant with whom do you form a contract? Not with the person who serves you.
And who is resposible for your greatest pleasure and satisfaction? Not the person who served you.

If you leave a tip then surely it should be shared with all the people involved in your experience - the cooks, the cleaners ... not just the person who placed it in front of you. Do you give shop assistants a tip when they give you good service? Why not?
Nothing of the decision prevents shared tips which is usually the case.