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General Category => Science and Technology => Topic started by: Nearly Sane on October 19, 2024, 12:27:09 PM

Title: How will weight-loss drugs change our relationship with food?
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 19, 2024, 12:27:09 PM
I fear that for some politicians they could be seen as a panacea here.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g518d5j5lo
Title: Re: How will weight-loss drugs change our relationship with food?
Post by: ad_orientem on October 19, 2024, 02:12:42 PM
"Is obesity something that people bring on themselves and they just need to make better life choices? Or is it a societal failing with millions of victims that needs stronger laws to control the types of food we eat?"

The answer probably lies somewhere in between. I could rant about this for a while but I'll refrain. Of course, no one thinks "when I grow up, I want to be fat" but neither can you just give people a free pass when it comes to personal responsibility. It's complicated. If drugs like this can help, surely it's a good thing but it's not a cure, just a plaster.
Title: Re: How will weight-loss drugs change our relationship with food?
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 19, 2024, 02:32:40 PM
"Is obesity something that people bring on themselves and they just need to make better life choices? Or is it a societal failing with millions of victims that needs stronger laws to control the types of food we eat?"

The answer probably lies somewhere in between. I could rant about this for a while but I'll refrain. Of course, no one thinks "when I grow up, I want to be fat" but neither can you just give people a free pass when it comes to personal responsibility. It's complicated. If drugs like this can help, surely it's a good thing but it's not a cure, just a plaster.
I think there's the possibility of a lot of unintended consequences, and I'm not sure of what politicians will do, see thread here

https://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=22202.0

I'm also not convinced that a situation caused in part by the way we now produce food is best dealt with by drugs.
Title: Re: How will weight-loss drugs change our relationship with food?
Post by: ad_orientem on October 19, 2024, 02:45:37 PM
I think there's the possibility of a lot of unintended consequences, and I'm not sure of what politicians will do, see thread here

https://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=22202.0

I'm also not convinced that a situation caused in part by the way we now produce food is best dealt with by drugs.

As I said, it's complicated. I understand your point about it being used as a political tool and about food production. Both valid concerns. As I also said, such drugs are not cures, merely plasters. If you were to ask me, I'd say "losing weight is fucking easy". But if this can help some, I think that's a good thing.
Title: Re: How will weight-loss drugs change our relationship with food?
Post by: jeremyp on October 19, 2024, 07:32:40 PM
In summer of 2023 I was technically obese based on BMI. I retired from full time work in December 2023 and have, since then, lost 17kg. That's 2 stone 9 in old money. How did I do it? I had the time to cook for myself, so I stopped eating ready meals and supermarket pizzas. This was not a conscious effort to lose weight, it was just a byproduct of the fact that I had time not to eat processed foods.

There has to be something wrong with our processed foods, if just cutting them out of my diet can have such a dramatic effect.