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General Discussion / Re: Topic for going off topic
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Literature, Music, Art & Entertainment / Re: Picture This!
« Last post by Nearly Sane on April 03, 2025, 08:46:47 PM »Charing Cross Mansions Glasgow
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Last post by SqueakyVoice on April 03, 2025, 08:35:32 PM »Dear Fellow posters,Gonners,
Somebody tell me I am wrong, ...
Tell me I am wrong, please.
Gonnagle.
Just to reassure you, you are always wrong.
You're welcome .
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General Discussion / Re: More jokes please, good or bad as long as they're funny.
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by ad_orientem on April 03, 2025, 06:59:45 PM »I know what Grok is, Jeremy, thank you. Is the information it provided me wrong? Do you have a link to the correct information? And thank you for your advice, I won't be following it.
If what you say is true about what the academic said then I disagree with the decision to bar him from the US. Do you have a link? The sources I found said the contentious messages had not been published.
I'm not in the business of defending hypocrisy. It's been enlightening seeing what the US government has been funding around the world until now. I'm against the US government interfering covertly in other countries' affairs, pushing agendas that are not evident to most voters, including US voters. I'm quite surprised that "the left" now seem outraged that the US government is exposing and putting a stop to the interference.
I think the reason Vance focused on the abortion thing is because it plays well with his own base. It doesn't alter the fact that freedom of expression and association is currently under threat in the UK and EU. I'll not bother providing links to the news stories, since you seem to expect me to take your word for whatever, you can take mine.
The defunding of USAID means that American soft power has also gone. That has repercussions in the US, whether Americans understand that or not. The US left, and now russia and China enters. Two hostile nations, again, whether Americans understand that or not.
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Theism and Atheism / Re: Importance of religions
« Last post by ProfessorDavey on April 03, 2025, 06:08:07 PM »Religions are the ladder that have enabled human societies to reach such high levels of progress in human integration, self discipline and universality. Once a certain objective is achieved, the ladder that we use to get there may seem irrelevant and unnecessary….but its usefulness in reaching our goals cannot be denied, rather, it should be acknowledged.I don't think that is necessarily true Sriram, given that there is no evidence that religions even existed for most of the time since humans first evolved perhaps 300,000 years ago.
I think what you are referring to is the need for complex societal structures for the development and progress of humans as a species. Certainly religion can fulfil than need for complex societal structures, but so can and have other societal structures both in the past and the present.
So realistically the development of humans over the past 300,000 years seems to have a relatively recent phase, perhaps the last 10,000 years where religions have played a substantial role, but there is little evidence religion existed before then. So if, as you appear to be suggesting, religion gets pushed out of human development in the next phase (not convinced that this is true) then religion would represent a rather brief transient societal construct within a much longer humans developmental process.
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Theism and Atheism / Re: Importance of religions
« Last post by Gonnagle on April 03, 2025, 05:32:23 PM »And are there any of those values that you disagree with Sriram. That seems like an excellent list of values that we should all be following.
And you seem to imply that these values are somehow opposed to religious values - are they? I don't think they are - I suspect most religions also espouse most of these values albeit they may be described in rather different terms. I think what we are seeing, largely, is much more universal values that are intrinsic to the human experience and to the development of the human species via evolution. These have always been there. At times they have been phrased in the language of religion, but now they are being phrased in a secular manner to reflect a decline in religiosity in most developed countries.
Dear Prof,
But are we seeing those values, we will now go over to our roving reporter Nearlysane who brings us all the daily news from around the world just for our little forum, Sane just for us guys in the studio, the hot topic is values and lets talk America are we seeing those values in the good old US of A.
Sorry Sane, just being silly it is one of those rhetorical questions.
Gonnagle.
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Christian Topic / Re: Church covered up 'abhorrent' abuse, report finds
« Last post by ProfessorDavey on April 03, 2025, 05:20:51 PM »Quite incredibleThis interview is almost up there with the Prince Andrew/Emily Maitless one in terms of being completely tone deaf.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89y9g83e92o
I tell you what Eton has really got a lot to answer for in foisting so many useless self-entitled people on our country and its institutions.
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Theism and Atheism / Re: Importance of religions
« Last post by ProfessorDavey on April 03, 2025, 04:44:29 PM »Religious values are being replaced by secular values such as…humanism, rationality, integration, non judgement, globalization, non-violence, universal brotherhood, animal rights and so on.And are there any of those values that you disagree with Sriram. That seems like an excellent list of values that we should all be following.
And you seem to imply that these values are somehow opposed to religious values - are they? I don't think they are - I suspect most religions also espouse most of these values albeit they may be described in rather different terms. I think what we are seeing, largely, is much more universal values that are intrinsic to the human experience and to the development of the human species via evolution. These have always been there. At times they have been phrased in the language of religion, but now they are being phrased in a secular manner to reflect a decline in religiosity in most developed countries.
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Christine on April 03, 2025, 04:08:37 PM »Grok is Elon Musk's AI. You shouldn't touch it.
In broad terms, yes they are. The fact that the UK imposes tariffs does not make them good.
Yes, but if you are barring people simply for being critical of your government, it's a huge red flag.
The French academic was critical of the Tr*mp administration's science policy i.e. cutting funds for doing scientific research. There was no incitement to violence or anything remotely like it.
I know what Grok is, Jeremy, thank you. Is the information it provided me wrong? Do you have a link to the correct information? And thank you for your advice, I won't be following it.
If what you say is true about what the academic said then I disagree with the decision to bar him from the US. Do you have a link? The sources I found said the contentious messages had not been published.
I'm not in the business of defending hypocrisy. It's been enlightening seeing what the US government has been funding around the world until now. I'm against the US government interfering covertly in other countries' affairs, pushing agendas that are not evident to most voters, including US voters. I'm quite surprised that "the left" now seem outraged that the US government is exposing and putting a stop to the interference.
I think the reason Vance focused on the abortion thing is because it plays well with his own base. It doesn't alter the fact that freedom of expression and association is currently under threat in the UK and EU. I'll not bother providing links to the news stories, since you seem to expect me to take your word for whatever, you can take mine.