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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by ad_orientem on April 03, 2025, 11:35:39 AM »
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Christine on April 03, 2025, 11:20:59 AM »
The US doesn't really care about it other than a wedge issue and one irrelevant to tariffs


Meanwhile

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-academic-denied-entry-united-states-donald-trump-personal-opinion-messages/

I had to ask Grok, as Duck Duck Go gave me pages of headlines about Donald Trump rather than answer my question.
Tariffs applied by the UK to US goods:

Cars: The UK applies a 10% tariff on imported cars from the US. This applies to passenger vehicles and is a significant point of discussion in trade negotiations, especially given the US's recent reciprocal tariff actions.

Steel: Tariffs on steel imports from the US can reach up to 25%, depending on the specific type and form of steel. This rate reflects protective measures for the UK steel industry, though it has been subject to adjustments and quotas in the past to manage trade flows.

Agricultural Products: Tariffs on US agricultural goods vary widely. For example, apples face a 0% tariff, while other products like beef or dairy can see higher rates, often ranging from 10% to over 50%, depending on the product and whether it falls under tariff-rate quotas (TRQs). TRQs allow a certain volume of goods to enter at a reduced or zero rate, with higher tariffs applied beyond that limit.

Alcohol: The UK imposes excise duties on alcoholic beverages, which apply to both domestic and imported products, but imports from the US also face additional customs duties. For instance, beer might not face a high tariff (often 0% under UKGT), but spirits like whiskey could see tariffs around 0-4%, plus VAT and excise duties applied at the point of sale.

So tariffs aren't bad per se?

Re the French academic - it's up to the US who they let into their country. Same in the UK:

UK Border Force  "has the power to refuse entry to an individual if it is considered that his or her presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good." (Home Office)

I don't think it's a good thing to restrict entry because someone said something you disagree with, but then, I don't know what the French academic said. I don't believe, as I have explained, that free speech encompases incitement to violence or threats to individuals.

Governments do things I disagree with all the time. Hypocrisy is rife (not just in governments either).

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Philosophy, in all its guises. / Re: NDE again
« Last post by Stranger on April 03, 2025, 10:53:25 AM »
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Nearly Sane on April 03, 2025, 10:41:33 AM »
If you’re calling middle-aged women who want to talk about their experiences to each other fascists and threatening to punch them in the face, you’ve got free speech in the UK.

Not so much if you don’t toe the establishment line.

Just a few examples:

Sussex University fined £585,000 for suppressing free speech (took long enough and not before they'd driven Dr Stock out of her job)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9vr4vjzgqo

Prosecuted for social media posts - not guilty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75zke1l7ylo

Rosie Kay lost her dance company for expressing reasonable views in private

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/freedom-of-speech-cancel-culture-the-arts-rosie-kay-choreographer-b1136290.html

Officers sent mob-handed to arrest parents in front of children for complaining about school

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dj1zlvxglo
The US doesn't really care about it other than a wedge issue and one irrelevant to tariffs


Meanwhile

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-academic-denied-entry-united-states-donald-trump-personal-opinion-messages/
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Science and Technology / Re: Richard Feynman 👍
« Last post by Stranger on April 03, 2025, 10:39:21 AM »
Well here is Wiki jam packed with referencing my sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis

I was actually talking about the moon's importance for life, rather than its formation, but never mind, seems you got it from AI.

But that is not the question I have this morning, wiki versus AI ?Why because you asked me for references, who do I trust, and my conclusion so far is AI, I trust a damn computer more than a human, oh dear!

Generally I'd trust Wiki more, it's been shown to be pretty accurate (although there is some nonsense on there too). Proper academic sources on the relevant subject are better, of course. That being said most AI summaries I've seen are reasonable enough, so long as you don't ask it anything too complicated and are aware that it sometimes gets things totally wrong, e.g. Apple urged to withdraw 'out of control' AI news alerts.

Do computers lie...

Oh, yes. Computers can do anything they're programmed to do (as long as it can be programmed, i.e. is algorithmic).

The "lazy brain theory" suggests our brains are wired to conserve energy and effort, relying on shortcuts and mental heuristics to make decisions quickly, which can lead to biases and irrationality.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Energy Conservation:
The brain prioritizes minimizing effort and maximizing efficiency, a strategy that evolved to help our ancestors survive by conserving resources.
Heuristics and Biases:
To achieve this, the brain uses mental shortcuts (heuristics) and relies on pre-existing knowledge and biases to make quick decisions.
Implications for Decision-Making:
This "laziness" can lead to snap judgments, confirmation bias (favoring information that confirms existing beliefs), and resistance to new ideas or information that requires more effort to process.
Examples:
The Dress: The famous "dress" online phenomenon, where people perceived the color differently, highlights how the brain can rely on visual shortcuts and biases.
Resisting New Ideas: People may resist new ideas or innovations because the brain finds it easier to stick to familiar patterns and avoid the effort of processing something new.
Lazy-Brain Labeling: The tendency to label others with "lazy-brain" thinking can lead to division and a lack of empathy, as it can be a shortcut to understanding complex situations.
Overcoming Lazy Thinking:
To counter the "lazy brain," it's important to actively engage in critical thinking, challenge our biases, and seek out diverse perspectives.
The Role of AI:
The rise of AI and language models (LLMs) raises concerns about whether we are becoming too reliant on technology to do the thinking for us, potentially further hindering our cognitive abilities.


Guilty yer honour on all counts, and you have mentioned this before "critical thinking" but then I am a lazy bar steward 8)

Gonnagle.

Meet Mary.   ;)

Thinking, Fast and Slow.
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General Discussion / Re: Global scam industry
« Last post by Enki on April 03, 2025, 10:19:23 AM »
BBC TV had an extensive look at this in Late February, I remember. Try googling 'scams Myanmar BBC' to access their take on it. In the UK, there are all sorts of phone scams, and, unfortunately, some people are vulnerable to such things.
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Last post by Christine on April 03, 2025, 10:12:14 AM »
Jean from Aberdeen is a star.

Spot the Fascist with Mr Menno

https://x.com/MrMennoTweets/status/1907697460287308134
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by jeremyp on April 03, 2025, 10:08:59 AM »
I see the Tories line is that the 10% tariff is a Brexit benefit. Rather than speaking up on behalf of free trade, one of the aims of many of them, they make idiotic comments like that because they are scared to stand up for what they believe but would rather pusillanimously cheer that the big boy only thumped them once.

I'm confused now. I thought free trade with countries like the USA  was supposed to a Brexit benefit.
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Philosophy, in all its guises. / Re: NDE again
« Last post by jeremyp on April 03, 2025, 10:06:40 AM »

Science exists to refute dogmas;
And yet, when it refutes your dogma, it somehow becomes too limited.


Quote
nevertheless, dogmas may be introduced when undemonstrated scientific axioms lead us to reject facts incompatible with them.
Examples of undemonstrated scientific axioms please.
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Politics & Current Affairs / Re: President Trump
« Last post by Christine on April 03, 2025, 10:05:46 AM »
The stuff coming out of the US government (from Vance the fuckwit) about there being a lack of 'free speech' in the UK seems deranged, with reports today that this has been an issue in trade negotiations.

It seems related to a case in England about someone not adhering to buffer laws around a medical provision centre - reading between the lines, it seems that by 'free speech' they'd like to see more noise arising from Christian organisations, and being taken seriously.

Perhaps the US government don't realise that here, and unlike in the US, abortion isn't such a politically hot potato.

If you’re calling middle-aged women who want to talk about their experiences to each other fascists and threatening to punch them in the face, you’ve got free speech in the UK.

Not so much if you don’t toe the establishment line.

Just a few examples:

Sussex University fined £585,000 for suppressing free speech (took long enough and not before they'd driven Dr Stock out of her job)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9vr4vjzgqo

Prosecuted for social media posts - not guilty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75zke1l7ylo

Rosie Kay lost her dance company for expressing reasonable views in private

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/freedom-of-speech-cancel-culture-the-arts-rosie-kay-choreographer-b1136290.html

Officers sent mob-handed to arrest parents in front of children for complaining about school

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dj1zlvxglo

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