Author Topic: Heaven is for real.  (Read 8423 times)

Owlswing

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Re: Heaven is for real.
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2015, 07:31:30 AM »
Anyone stating heaven is for real as a FACT  is a LIAR, there is NO evidence to support its existence.

No, to be a liar one has to know that one is telling a lie.

In which case the only person in this case NOT lying is< possibly, the boy, Colton.

Everyone else involved has no first-hand experience of the existence of heaven and even he cannot PROVE that heaven is where he went.
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Nearly Sane

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Re: Heaven is for real.
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2015, 07:38:08 AM »
Anyone stating heaven is for real as a FACT  is a LIAR, there is NO evidence to support its existence.

No, to be a liar one has to know that one is telling a lie.

In which case the only person in this case NOT lying is< possibly, the boy, Colton.

Everyone else involved has no first-hand experience of the existence of heaven and even he cannot PROVE that heaven is where he went.

Nope, if they honestly believe he went then they are not lying. They may be foolish, they may be basing their conclusion on insufficient evidence but they would not be lying.

Maeght

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Re: Heaven is for real.
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2015, 07:50:23 AM »
The next thing you'll get from Hope Floo, is: show him evidence that he hasn't got any evidence.
Since you have yet to provide us with any evidence for many of your assertions, ippy, perhaps you need to take this as your own motto.

The excuse made by those who don't have the evidence they claim! ::)

Where is your evidence that God and heaven DO NOT exist?

You don't have the evidence you claim...

If someone states as a fact that God and Heaven do not exist then they do, of course, need to support that with evidence, just as those who claim God and Heaven exist need to do. Most atheists don't state there definitely is no God but say that they have no belief in God and see no evidence for one. This position requires no evidence in itself. A believer can just as well say they have faith and leave it at that and then no evidence is required but soon as claims are made of evidence for something or that something is a fact then that is different.

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Re: Heaven is for real.
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2015, 07:56:29 AM »
The thing about the film that makes me reject its content is that, in essense, it is nothing more than a very elaborate advertisement for books and artworks and, like all such adverts, is spun in such a way as to extort money from the faikthful regardless of the use to which said money is put.

There is no information given as to what percentage of the income actually goes to the charity/charities from a "fine art print" that costs $100.00 and an oil that costs $150.00 and experience of other such salers for charity, especially in the U S, would suggest that the proceeds to the charity/charities is probably minimal.
 

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ippy

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Re: Heaven is for real.
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2015, 02:58:02 PM »
The next thing you'll get from Hope Floo, is: show him evidence that he hasn't got any evidence.
Since you have yet to provide us with any evidence for many of your assertions, ippy, perhaps you need to take this as your own motto.

The excuse made by those who don't have the evidence they claim! ::)

Where is your evidence that God and heaven DO NOT exist?

You don't have the evidence you claim...

I could see the point of your post if I had said that I have evidence that the thing you call god doesn't exist, since I haven't, what are you on about?

How come there has never, never been at any time been something like a big media event, with press headlines like,"Absolute Proof that God Exists"; why, because there isn't any credible evidence.

Looks like you will have to wait, probably for a long, long time Sassy.

If there were any evidence Sass the massive world media would hardly let it go by without a mention, ding, ding any sign of this getting through?

Just another repeat for what good it'll do in your case; you're the one promoting this god idea so it's for you to find a way of backing up your own idea, you'll have a hard job.

Don't worry about it too much you've got some good company on here, one of your lot even thinks he has the evidence and has posted it, nobody has seen it, you're not quite as bad as that, but not that far short either.

ippy