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Re: Arming the Ukrainians
« Reply #2050 on: November 20, 2024, 06:28:22 PM »
So effectively UK follows Biden?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c20726y20kvt ;So
Britain apparently needs US permission to use them because they have US-made components.

Is there any evidence of North Koreans in Kursk?

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« Reply #2051 on: November 20, 2024, 06:43:05 PM »
Britain apparently needs US permission to use them because they have US-made components.


Isn't it because they need the US satellites for targeting?

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« Reply #2052 on: November 21, 2024, 03:14:20 AM »
Isn't it because they need the US satellites for targeting?

Only partially. Storm Shadow has a semi-autonomus guidance system.
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« Reply #2053 on: November 21, 2024, 05:41:56 AM »
Only partially. Storm Shadow has a semi-autonomus guidance system.

Yes, but for finding suitable targets don't they need US satellites?

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« Reply #2054 on: November 21, 2024, 12:07:39 PM »
'Ukraine says Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile for first time in the war' - though this seems not necessarily to have been an ICBM.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/ukraine-says-russia-launched-ballistic-missile-for-first-time/104632948

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« Reply #2055 on: November 21, 2024, 08:41:39 PM »
'Ukraine says Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile for first time in the war' - though this seems not necessarily to have been an ICBM.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/ukraine-says-russia-launched-ballistic-missile-for-first-time/104632948
Apparently a new missile


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4n9vgwnnyo

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« Reply #2056 on: November 22, 2024, 02:41:50 AM »
Apparently a new missile


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4n9vgwnnyo

Release the Tomahawks! They have a destiny to be fulfilled in Moscow.
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« Reply #2057 on: November 22, 2024, 05:21:20 PM »
Release the Tomahawks! They have a destiny to be fulfilled in Moscow.
I would imagine that the moment tomahawk missiles were detected, Russian submarines would launch their equivalent in response. Surely after yesterday you don't still believe they are bluffing?

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« Reply #2058 on: November 22, 2024, 07:57:13 PM »
I would imagine that the moment tomahawk missiles were detected, Russian submarines would launch their equivalent in response. Surely after yesterday you don't still believe they are bluffing?

Er, yes I do. But even if they weren't, it'd still be worth it. And for all the "escalation" whiners, build a fucking bunker if you're so worried.
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« Reply #2059 on: Today at 04:15:09 AM »
So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?
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« Reply #2060 on: Today at 06:09:02 AM »
So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?

Oh yeah, because russia is the only country with nuclear weapons. In fact, russian weapons are so good and fast that they arrive at their destination before they press the launch button. The west can only retaliate by throwing stones at them. Well, that's what you lot would have us believe, anyway.
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« Reply #2061 on: Today at 06:57:56 AM »
So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?

The detonation process for nuclear weapons is very specific and so highly unlikely they would actually detonate.