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Rhiannon

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Re: True for me
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2015, 09:02:52 AM »
That's very common-sensible of you.  :)

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Re: True for me
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2015, 02:35:10 PM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.
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Re: True for me
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2015, 02:37:23 PM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: True for me
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2015, 02:41:45 PM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I have two children a boy and girl. True for me... is that true for you.

So how about thinking about the truth and the definition of true for me....
We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
 "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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Re: True for me
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2015, 02:46:50 PM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I have two children a boy and girl. True for me... is that true for you.

So how about thinking about the truth and the definition of true for me....

If you have two children then the fact you have two children is a fact and is also true for me.

Coincidentally I also have a boy and a girl. Facts are not relative and are true for everyone.
I see gullible people, everywhere!

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Re: True for me
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2015, 07:09:03 AM »
Triggered by the discussion on another thread about 'generally accepted facts', I am struggling with the idea of what people really mean when they say something is 'true for them'. If it means, as I suspect that it feels correct to them, does that give it any more respectability than liking marmite is true for me. It seems like an attempt to give credibility to an idea in some way more than 'i think' but I don't see that it does.

'True for me' as a choice of phrase, is an expression of ego.  Truth is not a commodity, it cannot be owned, traded, divided, apportioned or bartered. When people say 'true for me' they are expressing that a point of view seems unquestionably true from their perspective, and that is fair enough in itself, but the phrase 'true for me' goes further, it seeks to lay a claim of ownership over something that cannot be owned (ie truth).

Rhiannon

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Re: True for me
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2015, 10:30:43 AM »
Doesn't that depend on why people use it? 'True for me' when I use it means an experience or understanding that I cannot deny but that I am uncertain or doubtful as to whether it could ever be true for you, or indeed verifiably true. When it comes to perspectives and experiences of deity they are so many and so varied that no honest theist/deist could claim to have the truth. But to deny that my experiences are true for me would be for me to be disrespectful to an element of my life that matters to me.

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Re: True for me
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2015, 10:35:49 AM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I have two children a boy and girl. True for me... is that true for you.

So how about thinking about the truth and the definition of true for me....

Well unless you are deliberately lying by saying you have two children, a boy and girl, that is a fact which can definitely be proved without a shadow of doubt!

Rhiannon

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Re: True for me
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2015, 10:40:05 AM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I have two children a boy and girl. True for me... is that true for you.

So how about thinking about the truth and the definition of true for me....

Well unless you are deliberately lying by saying you have two children, a boy and girl, that is a fact which can definitely be proved without a shadow of doubt!

Only if we accept that our reality is true, and I'm not sure that it is. It seems we have 'rules' that help us to make sense of the world and our existence so that we can function. But we can't really know that anything is 'true'. Time, for example, might not work as we think it does.

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Re: True for me
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2015, 12:31:10 PM »
Truth is relative for everyone in their own way and individual circumstance.

So true for anyone is going to be radically different on many levels.

No.

What is true is true no matter how many believe it.
I have two children a boy and girl. True for me... is that true for you.

So how about thinking about the truth and the definition of true for me....

Well unless you are deliberately lying by saying you have two children, a boy and girl, that is a fact which can definitely be proved without a shadow of doubt!

Only if we accept that our reality is true, and I'm not sure that it is. It seems we have 'rules' that help us to make sense of the world and our existence so that we can function. But we can't really know that anything is 'true'. Time, for example, might not work as we think it does.

If you mean what we think is reality could be each one of us living our own version of it, like playing a computer game, then that is always a possibility.