Is God more important than family!

[Nearly Sane]

Prove he wasn't!

And at least he was out socially; he wasn't on his knees to his God! Unlikely in a piub, wouldn't you say?

Your claim, your burden of proof.

[jeremyp]

Just read the story.

It seems the parents were in separate locations inside the church and each thought the child was with the other.

This is no more than a tragic accident as far as I can see.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You'd think with all the electronic shit they put in cars for comfort, this type of incident might become a thing of the past.

[wigginhall]

Correlation ≠ causation.  In other words, the fact that they were in church doesn't mean that 'God is more important than family', no more than going in the pub and forgetting your kid would mean that drinking is more important.

[Gordon]

Moderator

I've removed a small number of posts that contained excessively confrontational remarks.

[Sebastian Toe]

Have you never watched Home Alone?




Except for one thunderingly huge fact - that "Home Alone" is fiction and no-one diednyhoo it does demons!

Really? I thought it was a fly on the wall documentary!   

[floo]

So any evidence that it was deliberate, Floo?

Either deliberate, or so 'spirit filled' with god juice, they weren't on message where their child was concerned, which is disgraceful to say the least.

If a faith causes people to neglect their children, or put them in danger it is pernicious. I have mentioned that guy, Abraham, in the not so good book, many times. How could he attempt to sacrifice his son just because he believed that was what god wanted? He should have told god where to stick such an evil suggestion! Then there are the parents so don't seek medicial attention for a sick child preferring to pray in the hope god will ride to the rescue.

It is fine to have a faith providing it doesn't cause harm to the person concerned, or others, in which case it is a ghastly liability.

[Nearly Sane]

Either deliberate, or so 'spirit filled' with god juice, they weren't on message where their child was concerned, which is disgraceful to say the least.

If a faith causes people to neglect their children, or put them in danger it is pernicious. I have mentioned that guy, Abraham, in the not so good book, many times. How could he attempt to sacrifice his son just because he believe that was what god wanted? He should have told god where to stick such an evil suggestion! Then there are the parents so don't seek medicial attention for a sick child preferring to pray in the hope god will ride to the rescue.

It is fine to have a faith providing it doesn't cause harm to the person concerned, or others, in which case it is a ghastly liability.

So that would be a no.

[Brownie]

Extracts from the Fox article:

A church member told KDFW the boy’s mother and father were in separate groups at the church. When the couple reunited 45 minutes after arriving at the church, they realized they only had four kids and their youngest child was missing.

The father immediately left the church and ran to the parking lot, where he found the boy unresponsive inside the family’s SUV.

I'm not excusing the couple, indeed it was gross carelessness, but as they were going to separate groups, each grabbing a child or two, I can see how it happened.

[Nearly Sane]

When I was 7, my eldest sister got married. Somehow on leaving the church I  decided to help guests find the buses to take them to the reception. I was a helpful, if slightly bossy, child. While I was doing that there were the various pictures taken at the church, and then the official cars took my family to the reception. I got there on one of the buses.

At the hall for the reception, more photos were taken of the families and I mingled with the guests.. Eventually the guests were allowed into the main hall and the reception carried on. It was only when the photos were seen that my family realised that I hadn't been present with them from the time of exiting the church to the guests getting into the reception, a period of about an hour.


These things happen, as per David Cameron's mistake. This resulted in tragedy here and using it incorrectly as deliberate to indulge in some petty points scoring against Christians is distasteful.

[Brownie]

I quite agree, well it is Fox news but I wouldn't be at all surprised if other media picked up on it.
Stuff happens, this wasn't deliberate neglect or abuse.  It's a great pity this particular happening was reported, can't remember now without looking if the parents were named but it is even more shocking if they were, they have enough to cope with.

[jjohnjil]

I quite agree, well it is Fox news but I wouldn't be at all surprised if other media picked up on it.
Stuff happens, this wasn't deliberate neglect or abuse.  It's a great pity this particular happening was reported, can't remember now without looking if the parents were named but it is even more shocking if they were, they have enough to cope with.

It does seem odd though that God helps Spud find his mislaid car keys and yet let's something like this happen when that whole family were going out of their way to learn how good he is.  You'd think he'd be a bit more consistent.  He certainly moves in mysterious way!

[Brownie]

No answer to that jjjohnjil  !

[floo]

It does seem odd though that God helps Spud find his mislaid car keys and yet let's something like this happen when that whole family were going out of their way to learn how good he is.  You'd think he'd be a bit more consistent.  He certainly moves in mysterious way!

God is very good at trivia, like a nice day for the Church fete, but not so good when it comes to really serious matters! 

[Brownie]

How come he doesn't stop it pouring with rain every day of a holiday in Devon?

[jjohnjil]

How come he doesn't stop it pouring with rain every day of a holiday in Devon?
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It's to make the grass grow and so make the cows provide us with all that lovely Devon cream.

[Nearly Sane]

God is very good at trivia, like a nice day for the Church fete, but not so good when it comes to really serious matters!

he's always on my pub quiz team, and it's always a cheap night out as we just order water and yet still get pissed.

[ippy]

NO!

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[Hope]

They "accidentally" forgot their child while they went to pray!

ACCIDENTALLY? ? ? ?

http://fox17online.com/2016/07/25/child-dies-in-hot-car-while-family-worships-in-church/

Not sure how you get from the story to your thread title, Owl.  This kind of thing can and does happen under a whole load of contexts.  I know it makes a great sound-bite for a thread title, but over the years it has happened whan parents have gone to do their weekly shop and - because they have gone in different directions and to different places - they have left a child in the car, or in the shop when leaving.  It has happened when people have been on holiday and have left their child(ren) in the car whilst getting things - only to be unavoidably delayed.

OK, it is an extremely tragic story, but by no means uncommon - http://noheatstroke.org; http://bit.ly/2av2T9v (thankfully, the child survived in ths case).

To suggest a link between God and the death in the way you have means that you are also creating a link between such deaths and a whole host of other contexts.