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[Rhiannon]

It's possible to have bowel cancer without occult blood showing up. Any change in how your bowels normally work or any lumps should be checked too.

[Owlswing]

Has anyone referred that Canadian Moderator: content removed to this thread?

It might just shut him up. One minor comment by me, about the very serious subject of cancer, and he just had to take it to the most illogical extreme, just because I said it and, to put it mildly, his compulsive stalking of me on this forum whenever he visits is becoming less and less welcome or amusing - the two most hated words in my world are "dearest matty".

I am rapidly finding that reading the posts by others is the only activity on the forum that I can take part in!

"Ignore him" is fine in theory, in practice it is not easy when he makes inane and, usually, pointless comments to just about every post, regardless of how serious the post might be.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Well over here we don't have to trust Canada Post to not lose our poop and to deliver it where it should be delivered to. Stool samples need to get to the lab as quickly as possible.

http://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/tests-and-procedures/stool-test/?region=ab

[OH MY WORLD!]

You are breaking the rules Matty, even in the language of the Finns. Now let me introduce you to the Paskapoo slopes of my city.

http://hikingwithbarry.com/2012/02/28/paskapoo-slopes-calgary-hiking-alberta

[Rhiannon]

Nobody with symptoms has to 'rely' on the post. That screening is routine for all over 50. Anyone with noticeable symptoms will have their testing done through their GP.

[OH MY WORLD!]

OK, well we don't do things the same way as you all and we don't get pleasure, as Matty says he does,  from sending his crap through the mail. That's petty sick to get ones jollies from doing that.

[bluehillside Retd.]

I have some experience of bowel cancer. A family friend was diagnosed late, and died of it age 43 leaving a wife and three young children. I got involved with his insurance company re extending his drug treatment, partially successfully but they were scumbags to deal with.

Partly because of this experience my wife took some symptoms seriously and had an early (Stage 1) diagnosis for the same thing. We were able to navigate the NHS successfully (research the hell out of it and then argue your case - that got her a laparoscopic treatment rather then the "stem to stern" surgery for example) and she's now well beyond the five-year all clear.

My advice? Take any symptoms seriously and insist on every test going, regardless of how much it'll cost your local doctors' surgery. Ultimately late diagnoses cost the NHS more to treat than early ones in any case.     

[Sebastian Toe]

Well over here we don't have to trust Canada Post to not lose our poop and to deliver it where it should be delivered to. Stool samples need to get to the lab as quickly as possible.

http://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/tests-and-procedures/stool-test/?region=ab

The Canadian Partnership Against Cancer

Home testing instructions for colon cancer;

SAMPLE 3
Repeat steps 1 to 10 above using the third flap.

    Put the test card in the foil envelope and seal the envelope tightly.
    Put the foil envelope and the completed form in the postage-paid envelope.
    Mail it or drop it off at a community laboratory collection centre.



http://tinyurl.com/nkg385u

edited to replace long URL

[OH MY WORLD!]

 Canadian Partnership is not a part of our Alberta health care system.


http://www.calgarylabservices.com/files/CLSForms/MI6000.pdf

[OH MY WORLD!]

From our Alberta Health Services

http://www.screeningforlife.ca/colorectalcancerscreening/about-colorectal-cancer-screening/home-stool-test

[Owlswing]

OK, well we don't do things the same way as you all and we don't get pleasure, as Matty says he does,  from sending his crap through the mail. That's petty sick to get ones jollies from doing that.

You really are a Moderator: content removed?

Trust you to take a joking statement and take it literally!

If you weren't so pathetic YOU would be the biggest joke here!

You cannot even spell "pretty".

[OH MY WORLD!]

Why are you still breaking the rules with your name calling Matty? As far as spelling, I spell as poorly as you do.  No, you were telling the truth the first time about mailing your poop.

[Gordon]

I had bowel cancer about 3-4 years ago.

People need to hear positive stories about it, I'm one 🌹

There is life after being diagnosed with bowel cancer and the sooner you can check it out the better 👍

Good advice Julie, since you've been there, bought the T-shirt etc.

It's great you have recovered, but it can't have been easy for you and your family - not sure I'd cope as well as you have.

[Rhiannon]

I'm glad you've recovered so well.

My ex discovered he had bowel cancer due to feeling a lump. They caught it so early it was a case of a quick snip and it was gone.

If anyone is frightened of the exam it is possible to be sedated.

[Harrowby Hall]

Excellent post, Julie.

My lovely, wonderful wife was let down by a complacent GP, who spent about two years treating her for "irritable bowel syndrome" without once considering the need to exclude anything more serious.

By the time cancer was suspected it was too late. Although she had a bowel resection the cancer had metastasised. She was given two years to live but survived seven.

The GP, I suspect, was trying to save the few hundred pounds an endoscopy would have cost. Her decision probably resulted in costs of £70,000 or more. Her reason was that my wife "did not fit the age profile". Mercifully, the wretched woman no longer practises.

My advice to anyone is:
- Make sure that you know the symptoms of colorectal cancer
- If you have the slightest suspicion, demand an investigation
- If you meet resistance ask whether the GP has x-ray eyes
- Don't accept irritable bowel syndrome as an adequate diagnosis.

The two (or three) year occult blood sample programme is a worthwhile activity, but it is possible to miss cases.

[Aruntraveller]

Just to reinforce HH's post and others here - a friend & work colleague of mine had bowel cancer and was operated on successfully the first time.

But she felt another lump a couple of years later and saw the consultant again who told her you don't get tumours coming back in the same place. I am sure you can guess where I am going with this.

It was a fucking tumour - and my friend died.

Now whether the delay caused by the consultant contributed to her death I don't know - but it gives you pause to think, doesn't it.

The only thing we can all be sure of is, we know our bodies and how they feel - if something doesn't feel right don't be fobbed off with a diagnosis that feels off. Now as we are not all medics that is a hard ask - but I really think we owe it to ourselves to be as awkward as possible with the medical profession when it comes to our health and how we are feeling.

I am not trying to diss the profession in any way - but like everyone else who works they see something that they think they've seen before and say it is 'x' (and on a % basis this works fine - on an individual basis it does not) when actually it could be anything from a - z.