Potential policies from 'Team Corbyn'

[jakswan]

So to ridicule the bill they were going to vote for it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34519164

No idea,  it looks to me that it was a trap to show labour up as fiscally irresponsible, they were going to avoid the trap by voting for it. Now it looks like they will fall for it and look like they don't know what they were doing.

[Nearly Sane]

So to ridicule the bill they were going to vote for it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34519164

No idea,  it looks to me that it was a trap to show labour up as fiscally irresponsible, they were going to avoid the trap by voting for it. Now it looks like they will fall for it and look like they don't know what they were doing.

Are the Lib Dems falling for it by voting against it? Is that even though it was not adhered to by any Tory govt between 79 and 97? Or that it is not an enforceable law by the constitution? Is voting for a non enforceable and so far non implementable law avoiding a trap? Perhaps having a govt or opposition with a vague understanding of the constitution or history or economics would be good?

[Hope]

They are voting against fiscal charter, which would require Governments in a growing economy to sustain a surplus.

As I understand it the charter is flaky as hell, the Tories playing politics.

So clearly Labour are playing politics because they seemed to be in agreement with the 'flaky' charter only 2 weeks ago.

[jakswan]

So to ridicule the bill they were going to vote for it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34519164

No idea,  it looks to me that it was a trap to show labour up as fiscally irresponsible, they were going to avoid the trap by voting for it. Now it looks like they will fall for it and look like they don't know what they were doing.

Are the Lib Dems falling for it by voting against it? Is that even though it was not adhered to by any Tory govt between 79 and 97? Or that it is not an enforceable law by the constitution? Is voting for a non enforceable and so far non implementable law avoiding a trap? Perhaps having a govt or opposition with a vague understanding of the constitution or history or economics would be good?

I don't think the Lib dems have an image problem with regard to their economic creditials.

Watched daily poltics show and part of the reason for the change was Snp spinning this out as Labour supporting Osborne and austerity... not honest but that is the Snp for you.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't think the Lib dems have an image problem with regard to their economic creditials.

Two words - tuition fees

[jakswan]

I don't think the Lib dems have an image problem with regard to their economic credentials.

Two words - tuition fees

Is that in regard to the economy or a wider thing, you are not confusing me with some tribal follower of the LibDems are you.

They cocked up on tuition fees and paid the price at the hands of the electorate.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't think the Lib dems have an image problem with regard to their economic credentials.

Two words - tuition fees

Is that in regard to the economy or a wider thing, you are not confusing me with some tribal follower of the LibDems are you.

They cocked up on tuition fees and paid the price at the hands of the electorate.

and given it was related to the economy illustrates they have an image problem in relation to their economic credentials

[jakswan]

I don't think the Lib dems have an image problem with regard to their economic credentials.

Two words - tuition fees

Is that in regard to the economy or a wider thing, you are not confusing me with some tribal follower of the LibDems are you.

They cocked up on tuition fees and paid the price at the hands of the electorate.

and given it was related to the economy illustrates they have an image problem in relation to their economic credentials

Whatever I don't think anyone is paying much attention to the LibDems these days. I'm not sure what you are arguing for, are you suggesting Labour handled this issue well?

[Rhiannon]

It certainly indicates that the Lib Dems can't work out basic economics. They didn't understand that they couldn't afford to offer the same level of university education without fees. The Tories had a fee scrapping policy but dumped it once they did their sums and actually admitted it was wrong if them to have had it. It pains me to say it, but for the Lib Dems not to have figured that out made them inept. If they had figured that out then they were liars.

[jakswan]

They are voting against fiscal charter, which would require Governments in a growing economy to sustain a surplus.

As I understand it the charter is flaky as hell, the Tories playing politics.

So clearly Labour are playing politics because they seemed to be in agreement with the 'flaky' charter only 2 weeks ago.

They all play politics all of the time sometimes they allow the facade to slip so much that everyone can see.

[BashfulAnthony]

All politicians play politics, that's why they are politicians.  I merely take most of what's said with a pinch of salt.  If the Prime Minister can stand up in public, as he did at the Conservative Conference, and lie and double talk as he did, then you can take nothing as gospel.

[jakswan]

It certainly indicates that the Lib Dems can't work out basic economics. They didn't understand that they couldn't afford to offer the same level of university education without fees. The Tories had a fee scrapping policy but dumped it once they did their sums and actually admitted it was wrong if them to have had it. It pains me to say it, but for the Lib Dems not to have figured that out made them inept. If they had figured that out then they were liars.

Does it show those things, the LibDems didn't get into power so they had to negotiate what was spent. I thinks its complex issue, the electorate doesn't have patience to get into the complexities so short little quips wins the day.

We'll be hearing lots more 'deficit deniers', 'votes with the Tories' over the next few years.

[Nearly Sane]

Yep, it precisely shows those things, don't make pledges that you haven't costed, because when you break the pledge it makes you look like idiots or liars.

[jakswan]

Yep, it precisely shows those things, don't make pledges that you haven't costed, because when you break the pledge it makes you look like idiots or liars.

Whatever I don't think anyone is paying much attention to the LibDems these days. I'm not sure what you are arguing for, are you suggesting Labour handled this issue well?

[jeremyp]

and given it was related to the economy illustrates they have an image problem in relation to their economic credentials

Yes but only in the sense that every government policy has an effect on the economy one way or the other.

[Nearly Sane]

Just ffs


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11982482/Jeremy-Corbyn-criticised-for-not-bowing-deeply-enough-at-Cenotaph-on-Remembrance-Sunday.html

[jeremyp]

Just ffs


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11982482/Jeremy-Corbyn-criticised-for-not-bowing-deeply-enough-at-Cenotaph-on-Remembrance-Sunday.html

They're just pissed off he didn't do this

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/04/article-1255300-03622FA60000044D-359_468x324.jpg

[ProfessorDavey]

Just ffs


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11982482/Jeremy-Corbyn-criticised-for-not-bowing-deeply-enough-at-Cenotaph-on-Remembrance-Sunday.html

I actually thought it was a spoof when I saw a link to this on Facebook, but apparently not