A mess of a species?

[Samuel]

Depressing isn't it?

[Leonard James]

Depressing isn't it?

For a pessimist, yes! But an optimist knows that we just have to accept the fact and do our best to sort the mess out! 

[Rhiannon]

#23 Sam, when I lost my faith one of the most liberating moments was when I realised that I was responsible for saving myself. The more people that realise this, the greater the hope is.

[Hope]

Shaker is wrong of course. What a person writes will not show you their heart, it could all be deception. One can be a darn good deception spotter. To do that I would want to look at Shaker as he talks. Now after that I would have a better take on his heart but still I could not claim to know it.

https://youtu.be/P_6vDLq64gE?t=21


Hell Matty, my number one fan!

Then your post is total bull!

Why's that, Matt?  For all you know, I'm a deeply racist, Black-American lesbian trying to pass myself off as a White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant heterosexual.  Without seeing each other in the flesh we cannot 'know' that what is written is actually true.  I'm not the first alternative above, but I have the skills and techniques to make myself sound very different in my writing to what I really am.  This likely applies to everyone on this board.

[Hope]

We too easily forget that we are animals.

Forget? Some people don't even acknowledge the fact.

No, some don't because some of us believe that we are, as humans, more than a mere biological entity.  At the same time, I think most of us would also agree that, at least metaphorically, we are less than animals.

[Shaker]

We too easily forget that we are animals.

Forget? Some people don't even acknowledge the fact.

No, some don't because some of us believe that we are, as humans, more than a mere biological entity.

On no evidence as usual.

At the same time, I think most of us would also agree that, at least metaphorically, we are less than animals.

How can an animal be less than an animal?

Indeed, how can anything be? The scale of nature, which is what you're implying with this "less" nonsense, was rightly consigned to the dustbin of history a long, long time ago - didn't you know?

[Jack Knave]

"It's just incomprehensible that human beings can be so evil to innocent, fellow human beings. What a mess of a species we are!"

Pity the twat didn't say the same about Blair and Bush, Guantanamo, Cameron and Sarkozy in Libya cheering the people on in their fight to democracy and how we are now working with Sisi in Egypt after backing the people there in their fight for democracy. We know who the real threats to our live are!!!

[Jack Knave]

I think perhaps the mess is necessary for us to see the best of ourselves. When elements of humanity does its worst, the rest responds with acts of kindness, fortitude and love, large and small.

Of course it would be better if we could live from a place where we don't need the bad to push us into the good, but we don't seem to be capable of that. We seem to forget what we are capable of, we go to sleep.

Right. We become complacent...

People aren't wearing enough hats!!!

[Jack Knave]

If you don't know where you are starting from, how can you move forward with any sense of direction?

But you missed the context of my post; we go to sleep when things aren't so bad. We shouldn't need suffering to wake us up into the best we can be.

You need contrast to 'wake' one up. You can't create that, that comes from the vagaries of life.

[Owlswing]

I think perhaps the mess is necessary for us to see the best of ourselves. When elements of humanity does its worst, the rest responds with acts of kindness, fortitude and love, large and small.

Of course it would be better if we could live from a place where we don't need the bad to push us into the good, but we don't seem to be capable of that. We seem to forget what we are capable of, we go to sleep.

Right. We become complacent...

People aren't wearing enough hats!!!

Actually I think the problem is exactly the opposite.

Politicians are required to wear far too many hats!

[Jack Knave]

The human is the most dangerous creature, it is deceitful above all else. I don't know what's in your heart Rhi, nor you mine.

Yeap, just rap yourself in bubble rap and don't budge an inch!!!

[Owlswing]

The human is the most dangerous creature, it is deceitful above all else. I don't know what's in your heart Rhi, nor you mine.

Yeap, just rap yourself in bubble rap and don't budge an inch!!!

Canada is not immune - it has had more than a few "incidents" of its own, not all Islami related, but it can not afford to be complaceent.

[Jack Knave]

I think perhaps the mess is necessary for us to see the best of ourselves. When elements of humanity does its worst, the rest responds with acts of kindness, fortitude and love, large and small.

Of course it would be better if we could live from a place where we don't need the bad to push us into the good, but we don't seem to be capable of that. We seem to forget what we are capable of, we go to sleep.

Right. We become complacent...

People aren't wearing enough hats!!!

Actually I think the problem is exactly the opposite.

Politicians are required to wear far too many hats!

That could be true. Too many hats makes for a pain in the neck.

[Jack Knave]

The human is the most dangerous creature, it is deceitful above all else. I don't know what's in your heart Rhi, nor you mine.

Yeap, just rap yourself in bubble rap and don't budge an inch!!!

Canada is not immune - it has had more than a few "incidents" of its own, not all Islami related, but it can not afford to be complaceent.

What? Owlswing? Are you on some pagan hippy smoking-fest? What has that got to do with my post?

[Owlswing]

I think perhaps the mess is necessary for us to see the best of ourselves. When elements of humanity does its worst, the rest responds with acts of kindness, fortitude and love, large and small.

Of course it would be better if we could live from a place where we don't need the bad to push us into the good, but we don't seem to be capable of that. We seem to forget what we are capable of, we go to sleep.

Right. We become complacent...

People aren't wearing enough hats!!!

Actually I think the problem is exactly the opposite.

Politicians are required to wear far too many hats!

That could be true. Too many hats makes for a pain in the neck.

Yeah, but in the case of politicians it is the electorate that get the pain not the politicians.

[Owlswing]

The human is the most dangerous creature, it is deceitful above all else. I don't know what's in your heart Rhi, nor you mine.

Yeap, just rap yourself in bubble rap and don't budge an inch!!!

Canada is not immune - it has had more than a few "incidents" of its own, not all Islami related, but it can not afford to be complaceent.

What? Owlswing? Are you on some pagan hippy smoking-fest? What has that got to do with my post?

No, I don't smoke - not since it nearly killed me twenty years ago!

Other than that ignore it I mis-interpreted MC's post! Andyou response!

[Jack Knave]

I think perhaps the mess is necessary for us to see the best of ourselves. When elements of humanity does its worst, the rest responds with acts of kindness, fortitude and love, large and small.

Of course it would be better if we could live from a place where we don't need the bad to push us into the good, but we don't seem to be capable of that. We seem to forget what we are capable of, we go to sleep.

Right. We become complacent...

People aren't wearing enough hats!!!

Actually I think the problem is exactly the opposite.

Politicians are required to wear far too many hats!

That could be true. Too many hats makes for a pain in the neck.

Yeah, but in the case of politicians it is the electorate that get the pain not the politicians.

That's because they never learn that the real threat to them is from their own politicians. See my #31

[Owlswing]

Yeah, but in the case of politicians it is the electorate that get the pain not the politicians.

That's because they never learn that the real threat to them is from their own politicians. See my #31

It seems a bit unfair just to single those four out from all the others.

[Jack Knave]

Just to note in this case the General was positing that if the electorate decided against his view, it was wrong.

Nearly, you smoking too!!!

Go out, turn left and I think you'll find the correct thread is on your right. 

[Jack Knave]

Yeah, but in the case of politicians it is the electorate that get the pain not the politicians.

That's because they never learn that the real threat to them is from their own politicians. See my #31

It seems a bit unfair just to single those four out from all the others.

I think I know what you are saying - though I'm still pretty convinced you're smoking dope.

Perhaps I should have said our world leaders.

[Nearly Sane]

Indeed, JK, you are right, I misconstrued the thread, my thanks for pointing it out.

[Owlswing]

That's because they never learn that the real threat to them is from their own politicians. See my #31


It seems a bit unfair just to single those four out from all the others.

I think I know what you are saying - though I'm still pretty convinced you're smoking dope.

Perhaps I should have said our world leaders.

Accepted!

[Nearly Sane]

Accepted!

the new nested quotes first non test example was the post I am replying to.

[Owlswing]

That's because they never learn that the real threat to them is from their own politicians. See my #31


It seems a bit unfair just to single those four out from all the others.

I think I know what you are saying - though I'm still pretty convinced you're smoking dope.

Perhaps I should have said our world leaders.

Be as convinced as you like - being told that one more cigarette (of any sort) will kill you tends to stop you smoking anything ever again! And damn quickly.