Author Topic: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?  (Read 34442 times)

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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #200 on: December 17, 2015, 11:18:19 AM »
Why not show us the assertions in my posts already made without using any assertions in the post you reply with.

Jesus Christ is a statement of fact.
God is a statement of fact.

Now you proving God didn't exist is impossible. Would be an assertion on your part wouldn't it.

Get the idea now. Was trying to save you some face. However, it is impossible sometimes because you are insistent  if nothing else.

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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #201 on: December 17, 2015, 09:23:24 PM »
Why the vehemence?  I can understand someone not believing in God but not hating someone who they think does not exist.  Pointless.
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #202 on: December 17, 2015, 09:43:36 PM »
Being loved by the evil b*stard, assuming it exists, would be worse than being loved by Hitler! >:(
We are fully aware of your background, Floo, but can you point to any New Testament passages that teach that Christian parents or teachers should behave in the way you constantly tell us your parents did?
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #203 on: December 17, 2015, 09:44:35 PM »
Why the vehemence?  I can understand someone not believing in God but not hating someone who they think does not exist.  Pointless.
It would be, if that were actually the case.

For most it isn't.
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #204 on: December 18, 2015, 08:57:58 AM »
As the not so good book can be interpreted any which way, and the 'born again' mob interpret as you must be 'saved' or suffer nasty consequences if you don't, I think it is reasonable to point out, if that were true, what a ghastly faith position that is!

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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #205 on: December 21, 2015, 01:41:37 AM »
Being loved by the evil b*stard, assuming it exists, would be worse than being loved by Hitler! >:(

Double standard isn't it.

If God doesn't exist who does that leave to blame for all the evil in the world...
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #206 on: December 21, 2015, 11:22:59 AM »
Double standard isn't it.

If God doesn't exist who does that leave to blame for all the evil in the world...
Hope your mirror is strong enough...

So you are saying if the deity exists it is responsible for all the evil in the world?

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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #207 on: December 21, 2015, 11:39:18 AM »
So you are saying if the deity exists it is responsible for all the evil in the world?
The OT does indeed say exactly that - Book of Isaiah IIRC. Maybe somebody will know the specific chapter and verse.
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #208 on: December 21, 2015, 11:44:04 AM »
The OT does indeed say exactly that - Book of Isaiah IIRC. Maybe somebody will know the specific chapter and verse.

That being so humans cannot be blamed if some turn out bad!

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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #209 on: December 22, 2015, 01:49:11 PM »
It would be, if that were actually the case.

For most it isn't.

Not quite sure what you mean Shaker but there are people who make a big deal out of not believing and deep down they aren't sure.  Certainly those of us who were somewhat indoctrinated as kids have a certain core and fear.  Then there are those who hate the idea of a God, particularly a vengeful God.

The other thing is religion and the way it is sometimes presented and practised, many dislike that.

It isn't only Christianity, in its various forms, that can cause emotional abuse.   Other faiths can have the same effect.  It's my belief that kids should be encouraged to explore and make their own minds up, far healthier.   However we are all influenced in some way by our upbringing, early environment, sometimes leaving scars;  doesn't have to be religious.  Letting go of the past is not easy.
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Re: How to protect children/vulnerable from Christian emotional abuse?
« Reply #210 on: December 22, 2015, 06:18:50 PM »
Why not show us the assertions in my posts already made without using any assertions in the post you reply with.

Jesus Christ is a statement of fact.
God is a statement of fact.

Now you proving God didn't exist is impossible. Would be an assertion on your part wouldn't it.

Get the idea now. Was trying to save you some face. However, it is impossible sometimes because you are insistent  if nothing else.

Smile God loves you. :D

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