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Owlswing

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2016, 08:15:35 AM »

Lokoking? Is that something one can do in a parallel universe?........This universe is pretty light on lokokers.


Cheap shot - even for you!
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2016, 08:18:35 AM »
Cheap shot - even for you!

Are you accusing me of being Lo, Kok?

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2016, 08:19:37 AM »

Are you accusing me of being Lo, Kok?


The word is spelt LOW, Cock!
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2016, 08:23:47 AM »
The word is spelt LOW, Cock!
Wha' ever

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2016, 04:03:47 PM »
Why start a thread... 'Wishing for an afterlife' when we already have a thread...

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Topic: There is life after death but doesn't mean Heaven

Does not make sense when the afterlife (whether wished for or existing and not meaning heaven) already has a topic
for such discussion.

How many bloody afterlife's is there?

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2016, 04:39:36 PM »
How to bore someones sock off. Copy, Copy and Copy again.
The irony - just like you do with the Bible.
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2016, 07:22:33 AM »
The irony - just like you do with the Bible.

Well, I seem to understand the bible pretty well. I know Jesus is the Messiah the Son of God.
WHEREAS you just believe it all UNTRUE... Seems no irony my faith does as it says on the tin.
Makes your opinion redundant like your atheism. An honest man would have said, "I do not know if the bible is true"
and honest man would allow another their faith without ridicule.

I believe if homosexuality was not mentioned in the bible you would have nothing to attack believers with.


Jesus Christ was for loving one another and treating others  as we wanted to be treated. I can see why such a concept would be unacceptable to you and why it would not sit right with you. A good message a good way but rejected because in your pride
you believe you know best.

I believe your post show you want strife and are divisive when it comes to God, Christ and the Children of God.

A better and a more honest use of the word 'Irony' when it comes to the truth.
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2016, 08:02:56 AM »
Recently this came up on another thread and it might be interesting to look at it further.

Why do some people desperately want there to be some kind of continuation of life after death?

One could equally ask "Why do some people desperately want there to be no continuation of life after death"? I don't see anything wrong in wishing to be able to impart one's knowledge gained through experience to others, even if it were to be in another "sphere".

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2016, 08:08:13 AM »
One could equally ask "Why do some people desperately want there to be no continuation of life after death"?
Who says that this is the case, and of whom?

Disbelieving in a proposition because it's both unevidenced and poorly argued, shot through with logical fallacies, is not even remotely the same thing as a positive and active desire for the proposition not to be true. It means a believable case has not been made.
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2016, 08:45:36 AM »
One could equally ask "Why do some people desperately want there to be no continuation of life after death"? I don't see anything wrong in wishing to be able to impart one's knowledge gained through experience to others, even if it were to be in another "sphere".

Even if there is an afterlife you have no idea what it would consist of, it might be much worse than this one.

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2016, 12:02:17 PM »

Even if there is an afterlife you have no idea what it would consist of, it might be much worse than this one.


True - but that is part of the fact that belief in "an afterlife" is usually part of a religious belief - both are matters of faith.

Just because you do not have a a religious belief, and therefore do not have a belief in an "afterlife", does not make your argument any more likely than mine, they are both matters of faith - neither of which can be proven.
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2016, 01:06:36 PM »

Just because you do not have a a religious belief, and therefore do not have a belief in an "afterlife", does not make your argument any more likely than mine, they are both matters of faith - neither of which can be proven.

Doesn't really make much sense - you cannot have faith in a negative.  What we can do is look to evidence, and see what the balance of evidence suggests.

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2016, 03:20:58 PM »

Doesn't really make much sense - you cannot have faith in a negative.  What we can do is look to evidence, and see what the balance of evidence suggests.


Floo's faith is not in a negative - it is positive, positive that no Gods, of any religion, exist. My faith is also positive, positive that they, the Gods, and the Goddesses, do exist.
   
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2016, 03:23:46 PM »
Floo's faith is not in a negative - it is positive, positive that no Gods, of any religion, exist. My faith is also positive, positive that they, the Gods, and the Goddesses, do exist.
 

Floo not only hasn't said that, she has frequently expressed that she wouldn't say that.

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2016, 03:24:49 PM »

Floo not only hasn't said that, she has frequently expressed that she wouldn't say that.


OK - what does she say on the suubject then?

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2016, 03:28:17 PM »
That she is unsure about god(s) but sees no evidence or reason to believe in them. She describes this as agnostic which is like nails down the blackboard for me, but it's clear.

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2016, 03:32:50 PM »
I am of the opinion that all the gods people worship are human inventions. However, it is remotely possible a god does exist somewhere beyond our time.

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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2016, 03:39:47 PM »

I am of the opinion that all the gods people worship are human inventions. However, it is remotely possible a god does exist somewhere beyond our time.


In that case I apologise; but would you say that your belief is a matter of faith or fact?
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Re: Wishing for an afterlife
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2016, 03:51:08 PM »
In that case I apologise; but would you say that your belief is a matter of faith or fact?

It is only a matter of belief, definitely NOT fact as I have no verifiable evidence either way.