The 'Truth'

[Shaker]

Meow 

[Stranger]

Far to much in one post stranger...

For the hard of thinking, maybe.

...secondly does god exist ,does yes DOES Jesus exist.Well a big question but over the years we have 2016 for a reason and as Shaker says the Jewish people have 7000 years so being as people say cryptic...

And for those of us who don't speak Gibberish....?

And leave you with your home work.

Likewise: I suggest written English, English comprehension, basic science, and logic would be good starting points for you...

[~TW~]

Moderator:

TW

If I require your assistance on Modding matters I'll be sure to ask, so perhaps you'd concentrate on your own posting.

 Yes and when you remove my post is it possible you could PM me with a copy of the post you remove thanks.
~TW~

[Brownie]

I do remember when the new one set up you pm'd me to ask which person I was from the old site.
The new site didn't last long it has been some years since that closed.

I fell out with and upset some people on there, forgotten why;  well, that's the nature of forums, particularly religious ones for some reason. 

[Khatru]

That the world would come to an end in their lifetime, is probably the prime example.

That's right and some years later when the world hadn't ended, Christians had to make up the Gospel of John to try and explain away the non-appearance of Jesus.

Unfortunately for those writers, it also meant creating a gospel that had major contradictions to the other three.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Some,

Sassy, you are so gloriously free of any hint of reasoning or logic - I know it's pointless trying to tell you but here we go, for a laugh...

What's weird here is that the Sassys, T(roll)Ws, Alan Burns's, Hopes etc are either entirely unaware of or are entirely indifferent to logic so crash merrily (or in T(roll)W's case venomously) into fallacy after fallacy with not a care for how they undermine their assertions, yet now we see some of them accusing others of illogicality.

Naturally Sassy for example doesn't bother with a counter-argument of any kind to demonstrate this supposed illogicality, it's enough just to accuse someone of it presumably in the hope that no-one notices she's arguing only from assertion - another fallacy.

I saw something by the blessed Richard Attenborough a while back about a toad that just doesn't see animals in one plane but does in another because the latter are how their predators/prey (I forget which) present so the former just don't matter. The fundie literalists here are a bit like that I find: you can ask Sassy 'til you're blue in the face how she would propose to break out of the circular reasoning of, "the bible is true because god makes it true; god exists because the bible says so" but she just doesn't see the question - it's in the wrong plane.

Similar I see that T(roll)W is attempting a "No True Scotsman" fallacy just now, apparently oblivious or indifferent to it all the while.

Like I said: weird.

[~TW~]

Some,

What's weird here is that the Sassys, T(roll)Ws, Alan Burns's, Hopes etc are either entirely unaware of or are entirely indifferent to logic so crash merrily (or in T(roll)W's case venomously) into fallacy after fallacy with not a care for how they undermine their assertions, yet now we see some of them accusing others of illogicality.

Naturally Sassy for example doesn't bother with a counter-argument of any kind to demonstrate this supposed illogicality, it's enough just to accuse someone of it presumably in the hope that no-one notices she's arguing only from assertion - another fallacy.

I saw something by the blessed Richard Attenborough a while back about a toad that just doesn't see animals in one plane but does in another because the latter are how their predators/prey (I forget which) present so the former just don't matter. The fundie literalists here are a bit like that I find: you can ask Sassy 'til your blue in the face how she would propose to break out of the circular reasoning of, "the bible is true because god makes it true; god exists because the bible says so" but she just doesn't see the question - it's in the wrong plane.

Similar I see that T(roll)W is attempting a "No True Scotsman" fallacy just now, apparently oblivious or indifferent to it all the while.

Like I said: weird.

 No not weird.The problem you have is you have trouble seeing.
~TW~

[Sassy]

I fell out with and upset some people on there, forgotten why;  well, that's the nature of forums, particularly religious ones for some reason.

A LindaB came to mind for some reason when reading this... Do you remember that?

[Sebastian Toe]

No not weird.The problem you have is you have trouble seeing.
~TW~

The problem you have is you have trouble seeing thinking. 

[Dicky Underpants]

That the world would come to an end in their lifetime, is probably the prime example.

And this, Shakes, is where one wishes the Christians who still believe that the End is still to come would apply Occam's Razor just a bit. Have you noticed that such Christians give all the texts that seem unequivocally to spell out this message a different individual interpretation in each instance?

As an addition to Khatru's observation, I should add that John's gospel appears to have been written when only one of the people that Jesus is recorded as addressing was left!

Later on, some verses in the 1st Epistle of Peter were written to do a face-saving job.