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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #150 on: June 06, 2016, 10:27:26 PM »
Shakes, I know a number of evolutionary scientists, both non-Christian and Christian, and talking with them they all say that whilst there is some evidence, none of it comes anywhere close to being definitive.
Nonsense, the evidence for the evolution of humans is incontrovertible. Find some scientist friends who have got a clue.

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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #151 on: June 07, 2016, 12:34:24 AM »
Shakes, I know a number of evolutionary scientists
Yes, I'd have put money on your claiming that.
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both non-Christian and Christian, and talking with them they all say that whilst there is some evidence, none of it comes anywhere close to being definitive.  They tend to use the legal term - circumstantial - to describe it.
You find cranks and crackpots in any group.
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As for the idea of 'evolution in general' as opposed to 'evolution in particular', there is plenty of evidence for microevolution, but very little concrete evidence for macroevolution.  Most of the latter is conjecture, and sometimes contradictory.
When I asked you before as to what you consider the difference between the two to be, the nearest you could get to any kind of answer was speciation, IIRC.

What's contradictory about the evidence? Exactly and specifically, I mean.
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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #152 on: June 11, 2016, 05:57:18 PM »
Sorry to see your ignorance showing, Sass.  Whilst I would agree that there is no definitive evidence for the 'evolvement' of human beings, there is plenty of evidence for evolution in general.

What evidence in the absence of no evolvement since before evolution suggested?

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Furthermore, nothing in the creation story rules out evolution, remembering that it gives no details on how anything was 'created'.
Wrong! God clearly says he spoke everything into being then he in his own words he created man by ..
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7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Nothing else has come into being since he created everything...
We know that in chapter 3 he curses the ground he formed the man from.
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17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Hence no scientist will know how God formed man from the dust of the ground.
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When one remembers that the early chapters of Genesis is more of a theological treatment of God and his relationship with humanity, rather than a historical record, it doesn't even touch on the issue.

When one knows God and knows why the words of Genesis are truth he understands why man never evolved but was 'formed' by God and his life breathed into him.  So it touches perfectly on the issue.

Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
Moses words came straight from the mouth of God and so the Torah is true.

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6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The words of God are pure words... It is in knowing God personally that you understand why the book of Genesis is true.
God cannot and does not lie.
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God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

By every word.... We know we shall see Adam on the day of judgment the first man as his name means.

Why do you not believe Gods own words about his creation?


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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #153 on: June 11, 2016, 05:58:40 PM »
Shakes, I know a number of evolutionary scientists, both non-Christian and Christian, and talking with them they all say that whilst there is some evidence, none of it comes anywhere close to being definitive.  They tend to use the legal term - circumstantial - to describe it.  As for the idea of 'evolution in general' as opposed to 'evolution in particular', there is plenty of evidence for microevolution, but very little concrete evidence for macroevolution.  Most of the latter is conjecture, and sometimes contradictory.
Must know them better than you know God. You believe them over God and Christ?

Shows where your truth really lies...
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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #154 on: June 11, 2016, 06:15:19 PM »
Evolvement ... bloody hell  ::)
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Re: Mary Magdalene.
« Reply #155 on: June 11, 2016, 08:39:43 PM »
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