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Keith Maitland

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Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« on: October 06, 2016, 04:44:47 AM »
What is your reaction to this blogpost? Do you agree with any of it?


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Life generally sucks.

Why does life generally suck?

It sucks because it's Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.

Pain:

The first tenet of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism is just this: Life is suffering. To suffer entails a certain amount of pain, the experience of discomfort and dis-satisfaction.

If you don't eat, you will have a myriad of sensations from a feeling of hunger culminating in starvation. If you don't drink water, you will begin to feel lacking, until you die with your tongue lolling out of your mouth. If you don't shit, you'll eventually do so anyway in your pants.

But in order to eat, you have to work. Working entails the burning of energy - the same energy consumed when you eat and drink, and the same kind of energy you are working for. So, fundamentally, working is just another safeguard against starvation and eventual death.

Let's not limit ourselves to to aches and pains of everyday life, though. What about that migraine you had last night? What about the two-week diarrhea episode? What about that time you broke your arm? What about the future pains? What if you get a horrible disease? What if you get into a car accident? What if a shark, despite the low probability, bites off your leg? What if...the last experience you have is of extreme, utter, unrelenting pain?

There is clearly an asymmetry in "pleasurable" states and painful states. Pleasurable states are transitory, usually disappointing, and never satisfying. Painful states are easy to come by, usually long-lasting, and tend to result in a long recovery period relative to their intensity.

Maybe you're in a condition that the pleasures you experience do outweigh the little pains of life. Lucky you. This does not change the fact that pain is a necessary component of sentient existence, whereas pleasure is a mere contingent, a motivating scheme to allow creative innovations.

It stands, then, that there is a problem in the very structure of sentient existence. And so any goodness, any pleasure, exists within the ever-present context and constraint of pain.

And let's not forget the savagery going on right outside your door, in the untamed wild. And let's also not forget that society's very existence is meant to protect us from this brutality. But the best way to protect someone is to not put them in a situation that requires them to be protected in the first place.

Underneath all pleasure (and even pain), is a ceaseless, insidious, rumbling urge to move. The Will.

Tediousness:

In addition to being painful, life is tedious. When something is tedious, it is boring, long-lived, usually repetitive, and slow-moving.

Life is a chore. You get up, shit, eat, shower, go to work, eat, come home, watch what traumatic happenings are occurring on the planet on your television, eat, shit, go to sleep, and repeat again and again and again and again and again. You're social outings and vacations are distractions from the daily grind. They act as a way of keeping you from going insane.

All of the accidents, all of the contingencies, have to be dealt with somehow, and this means someone has to deal with it.

Fear:

Life is scary. When you are born, you are thrown into a world already pre-conceived. You are expected to learn how to survive in the toxic world surrounding you. Support groups exist to fundamentally help you not-die. Nothing is guaranteed, which is both a relief and a source of extreme anxiety. What if I get impaled tomorrow? What if I get fired from my job? What if North Korea launches their nukes? What if my house burns down? What if I go to Hell after I die? What if an environmental catastrophe happens and I'm forced to live on beans and rice for five years?

Life is filled with possibilities, and the overwhelming amount of possibilities are negative. You're lucky if you aren't tripping over yourself on the stage of fate, a puppet to the whims of an external force. Life is traumatic.

We like to play pretend and convince ourselves that everything is alright, even great!. We go to church, pray to a non-existent hero archetype, put our confidence in devious politicians and snake-oil salesmen, submerge ourselves in the collective insanity of pop-culture and shopping, and unjustifiably-predict bright and happy futures for us and our spouse, whom we'll have three kids with, as well as buy a dog from a breeder, and whom we'll live in a house with a white picket fence, a style of house similar to that which our children will also live with their spouse, children, and dog when they grow up and mature into successful businesspersons with a 6-figure salary and a perfect retirement program.

Maturation is synonymous to the hiding of one's scars and the acceptance that one is a finite, limited, and overall weak entity in a world of great power.

Depression:

Depression is the rational response to an objective and honest reflection upon life. Mild to moderate depression, a more intellectual-motivated apathy, characterizes the negative person. Melancholy. The negative person appreciates the good while recognizing the contingency and fleeting nature of it, as well as the context in which it exists.

A deep sense of ennui is present in anyone who is actively conscious without any stimulation for an extended period of time. Like Mark Zapffe said, the universe is unable to accommodate the human psyche. There will always be a sense of dread and emptiness. That which catches the attention of the mind is either harmful or a cute novelty.

Fundamentally reality follows the rules of Scarcity and Fatigue. Resources are Scarce, and are used up, leading to a Fatigue in the system. It's a cosmic rule.

All of our structures, civilizations, aesthetics, dramas, relationships, and the like will eventually be destroyed. It in inevitable. Entropy will win whether we like it or not.

Reality is ultimately and unavoidably boring. There is nothing particularly special about existence, nothing worth noting, nothing inherently valuable in itself (positive and negative value). All value is a subjective appropriation necessary for survival. Creativity is the need to create something interesting from a world of utter flat-ness. We live in a world that stretches beyond our backyards, but has the depth of a puddle.

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Sriram

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 07:09:51 AM »

We have two parts to us.

One is the ego world in which we live most of the time. This world is full of pleasure, pain and instability. These will not go away because they are fundamentally a part of this world.  It is Nature.

The second world is that of the spirit when we go beyond the ego world and recognize our inner spirit. This part of us is inherently calm, peaceful and stable.  When we are in spirit we are free from the opposites of pleasure and pain. This is what we really are.

So...the solution is not to try to maximize pleasure and minimize pain. That will not be possible.  The solution is to recognize our true nature and go beyond the body and ego. We are then free from both pleasure and pain.
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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 08:23:41 AM »
Whilst my life is not perfect, on the whole it is good compared to many; I am fortunate to have a WONDERFUL family. :)

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 10:02:44 AM »
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The first tenet of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism is just this: Life is suffering. To suffer entails a certain amount of pain, the experience of discomfort and dis-satisfaction.


I think that is an important truth, but it doesn't mean that life is continual suffering. It might be better expressed as 'Suffering can't be avoided'. We must embrace the pain in order to appreciate the joy of life.
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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 11:31:52 AM »
Whatever it is ... or seems to be .. how could it be any different?

You can see depression as a rational conclusion, but our feelings are not rationally structured.
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 01:42:07 PM »
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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 08:14:48 PM »
Good to see Keith back on form again.

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2016, 03:10:00 AM »
Yeah.  Reading all that makes me want to go to bed for a fortnight.  At least.
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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2016, 08:44:42 PM »
Struggle is what makes mankind human. If we had nothing to worry about and total ease we would go mad.

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2016, 09:59:39 PM »
Struggle is what makes mankind human. If we had nothing to worry about and total ease we would go mad.

Yes, and struggles strengthen us spiritually. I've been through hard times that I wouldn't wish on anyone and they were very hard to get through. But looking back they were worth every moment and I don't regret having lived those times.... if that makes any sense.
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind ~ 2 Timothy 1:7

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 08:10:36 AM »
Struggle is what makes mankind human. If we had nothing to worry about and total ease we would go mad.

Indeed. Just look at Kim Kardashian.

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Re: Painful, Tedious, Scary, and Depressing.
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 05:18:19 PM »
Indeed. Just look at Kim Kardashian.
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